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Bob Vylan Says 'We Are Being Targeted for Speaking Up' After Glastonbury Set Backlash

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

    “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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    So their US visas got revoked. Meh. Who needs to go to the US anyway, who needs to be interrogated by some fascist chode at the border.

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    • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

      “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

      ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO This user is from outside of this forum
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      We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people.

      He does know people can just read his lyrics, right?

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      • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

        We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people.

        He does know people can just read his lyrics, right?

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        Which songs in particular are you referring to?

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        • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

          We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people.

          He does know people can just read his lyrics, right?

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          Yea you should try reading them

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          • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

            We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people.

            He does know people can just read his lyrics, right?

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            If you're referring to the "Death to the IDF" chant, let's be extremely fucking precise here: the IDF, being an occupying army, under international law is absolutely a legitimate target for violent armed Palestinian resistance. Legitimate target of violent armed resistance. Period.

            And Bob Vylan are not calling for the destruction of an ethnicity, a religion, a nation. They are calling for the destruction of a genocidal army. Just like the South African Defence Forces of the South African Apartheid era absolutely deserved to be destroyed as a criminal organization, so do the Israeli Defence Forces of the Israeli Apartheid era.

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            • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

              “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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              There is no backlash. It's manufactured outrage by Zionists and their puppets in media and politics.

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                There is no backlash. It's manufactured outrage by Zionists and their puppets in media and politics.

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                That's probably true of most things people think/say about the IDF at this point. Even my massively zionist "most moral military" aunt is calling it a genocide and is starting to oppose them

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                • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                  “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

                  tetris11@lemmy.mlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Very well said. This guy needs a new label with some balls. Show them that this guy is bankable by a wider disgruntled public than by a few at the top who are playing theatrical chess.

                  Here's the merchandise site: https://bobvylan.myshopify.com/

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                  • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                    “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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                    Bob vylan doesn't have to say it. The trump administration said it to the world they would do this

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                    • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                      Very well said. This guy needs a new label with some balls. Show them that this guy is bankable by a wider disgruntled public than by a few at the top who are playing theatrical chess.

                      Here's the merchandise site: https://bobvylan.myshopify.com/

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                      Lol, everything is sold out.

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                      • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                        Lol, everything is sold out.

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                        Not true, there is music still available.

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                          There is no backlash. It's manufactured outrage by Zionists and their puppets in media and politics.

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                          This is the moment when the general public and Nazis have a common enemy to unite against. Well shit, the Nazis were partly right and now the world is suffering and a country is disappearing at the hands of the Israelites and Zionists.

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                            “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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                            The IDF are Nazis and committing genocide daily.

                            People chanting: “Death, death to the IDF!!” Is the bare minimum repercussion that’s to be expected.
                            More people should join in!

                            Anyone defending or censoring for the IDF if a fucking goose stepping fascist.

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                            • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                              “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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                              Chanting "Death to the IDF" is "speaking up"? Okay. Seeing as military service is mandatory in Israel, they are chanting "Death to all the jews in israel..."

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                                This is the moment when the general public and Nazis have a common enemy to unite against. Well shit, the Nazis were partly right and now the world is suffering and a country is disappearing at the hands of the Israelites and Zionists.

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                                The only thing nazis were right about was when Hitler bit the barrel of his gun. Fuck nazis. Our Jewish brothers and sisters out here in the diaspora are not to blame for what the Israeli fascist regime is doing.

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                                • sculptuspoe@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                  Chanting "Death to the IDF" is "speaking up"? Okay. Seeing as military service is mandatory in Israel, they are chanting "Death to all the jews in israel..."

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                                  Let’s be precise here: the IDF, being an occupying army, under international law is absolutely a legitimate target for violent armed Palestinian resistance. Legitimate target of violent armed resistance. Period.

                                  Bob Vylan are not calling for the destruction of an ethnicity, a religion, a nation. They are calling for the destruction of a genocidal army. Just like the South African Defence Forces of the South African Apartheid era absolutely deserved to be destroyed as a criminal organization, so do the Israeli Defence Forces of the Israeli Apartheid era.

                                  Conscription was also mandatory in Apartheid South Africa for whites. This does not absolve the whites who participated in Apartheid. Jewish history itself teaches us that "following orders" is not an excuse for carrying out a genocide. It is clear in fact, that the mandatory nature of the conscription is a mechanism for making all Israelis complicit, and should be a target for abolition by Israelis of conscience themselves, again, just like in Apartheid South Africa. And of course, it fucking is.

                                  Death to apartheid and death to its institutions. Never again this shit, for anyone, anywhere.

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                                  • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                    The only thing nazis were right about was when Hitler bit the barrel of his gun. Fuck nazis. Our Jewish brothers and sisters out here in the diaspora are not to blame for what the Israeli fascist regime is doing.

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                                    I think recent polls suggested it was about 50/50 that support what Israel is doing. It was around 80% at the beginning of the war, so many have come a long way. Honestly, sort of similar to the American support of the Iraq War.

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                                      There is no backlash. It's manufactured outrage by Zionists and their puppets in media and politics.

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                                      I’m certainly in favor of seeing the IDF in prison. Bring on more chants.

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                                      • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                        “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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                                        You know I’d never heard of these guys until the outrage and I’ve been listening all day and I’m quite a fan.

                                        Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

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                                        • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                          The only thing nazis were right about was when Hitler bit the barrel of his gun. Fuck nazis. Our Jewish brothers and sisters out here in the diaspora are not to blame for what the Israeli fascist regime is doing.

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                                          Exactly. Genocide was wrong then and it's wrong now. It should not even be a question that we all condemn Hitler and his genocidal Nazi regime - just as it should not be a question that we condemn Israel and its genocidal Nazi regime.

                                          The Holocaust of the Jews was a horrific, unforgivable crime. So too is the Holocaust of the Palestinians. This is non-negotiable for any person of conscience.

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