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Bob Vylan Says 'We Are Being Targeted for Speaking Up' After Glastonbury Set Backlash

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

    The only thing nazis were right about was when Hitler bit the barrel of his gun. Fuck nazis. Our Jewish brothers and sisters out here in the diaspora are not to blame for what the Israeli fascist regime is doing.

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    Exactly. Genocide was wrong then and it's wrong now. It should not even be a question that we all condemn Hitler and his genocidal Nazi regime - just as it should not be a question that we condemn Israel and its genocidal Nazi regime.

    The Holocaust of the Jews was a horrific, unforgivable crime. So too is the Holocaust of the Palestinians. This is non-negotiable for any person of conscience.

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      You know I’d never heard of these guys until the outrage and I’ve been listening all day and I’m quite a fan.

      Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

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      Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

      Among the Axis countries yes.

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      • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

        Lol, everything is sold out.

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        The "Burn Britannia Sauce" is still available.

        Also funny how, like with kneecap, the Zionist ghouls act all surprised, when artists use the same expressions they use normally, when they state their opposition to genocide.

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          Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

          Among the Axis countries yes.

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          Even among the allied countries, yes.

          There was still a lot of people who were afraid of offending Hitler/Germany at the time.

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          • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

            “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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            Could someone with better search skills or knowledge of their discography link to their music for me? I’ve heard it’s good but I legitimately can’t find anything but news videos when I go looking (I don’t use any music handler platforms)

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            • apathytree@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

              Could someone with better search skills or knowledge of their discography link to their music for me? I’ve heard it’s good but I legitimately can’t find anything but news videos when I go looking (I don’t use any music handler platforms)

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              https://www.discogs.com/artist/7758817-Bob-Vylan-2

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                I’m certainly in favor of seeing the IDF in prison. Bring on more chants.

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                No, the change is right. They need to die.

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                • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                  So their US visas got revoked. Meh. Who needs to go to the US anyway, who needs to be interrogated by some fascist chode at the border.

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                  Sadly, they will probably be convicted of some sort of hate speech and sent down.

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                    You know I’d never heard of these guys until the outrage and I’ve been listening all day and I’m quite a fan.

                    Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

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                    It's more interesting to ask if " Death to Hitler" would have got you this reaction in the 30s. By the 40s we were at war with him and his followers. In the 30s he was in power, but there were still diplomatic relations.

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                    • apathytree@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                      Could someone with better search skills or knowledge of their discography link to their music for me? I’ve heard it’s good but I legitimately can’t find anything but news videos when I go looking (I don’t use any music handler platforms)

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                      Start with their second album, We Live Here. It's got some incredible, visceral punk on it. The Price of Life, and Humble As the Sun are top notch, but a touch more polished.

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                      • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                        Very well said. This guy needs a new label with some balls. Show them that this guy is bankable by a wider disgruntled public than by a few at the top who are playing theatrical chess.

                        Here's the merchandise site: https://bobvylan.myshopify.com/

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                        So far as I'm aware, their label hasn't dropped them. Their agents have, but fuck agents. Someone with some stones will snap 'em up in a heartbeat.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          It's more interesting to ask if " Death to Hitler" would have got you this reaction in the 30s. By the 40s we were at war with him and his followers. In the 30s he was in power, but there were still diplomatic relations.

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                          Haha, no. You underestimate the power antisemitism has always had in the US

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                            You know I’d never heard of these guys until the outrage and I’ve been listening all day and I’m quite a fan.

                            Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

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                            Jack Kirby was threatened for drawing Captain America punching Hitler. The difference back then was the mayor of NYC pot a protection detail on the Marvel offices instead of coming out to bat for Hitler.

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                              Even among the allied countries, yes.

                              There was still a lot of people who were afraid of offending Hitler/Germany at the time.

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                              While at war with them?

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                              • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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                                As someone in another post commented: Streisand effect. I never heard of these guys until now.

                                The genocide apologists are going to have a lot of egg on their face. They just keep digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole. History is written by the victors, but the younger generations have the last word. And history will not be kind.

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                                  No, the change is right. They need to die.

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                                  As in the organization needs to die. Which would quickly bring about the death of Zionist Israel as well, most likely.

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                                    While at war with them?

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                                    There were plenty of Americans who felt he had the right idea.

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                                    • E [email protected]

                                      As someone in another post commented: Streisand effect. I never heard of these guys until now.

                                      The genocide apologists are going to have a lot of egg on their face. They just keep digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole. History is written by the victors, but the younger generations have the last word. And history will not be kind.

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                                      its great PR/good press for said artist.

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                                      • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                                        “We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people. We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine,” the duo said on Instagram. “A machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza. We, like those in the spotlight before us, are not the story. We are a distraction from the story. And whatever sanctions we receive will be a distraction.”

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                                        We will never forget the perpetrators of these crimes. And we will never forget the people that tried to sweep this genocide under the rug. Palestinians have the right to defend themselves. It's not a terrorist act to fight against brutal settlers and colonizers.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          You know I’d never heard of these guys until the outrage and I’ve been listening all day and I’m quite a fan.

                                          Also, if you shouted death to Hitler in the ‘40s would you be getting this backlash too.

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                                          Charlie Chaplin released The Great Dictator in 1939, and while Hitler banned the film in Nazi-controlled countries, he allegedly watched it more than once after Chaplin personally arranged to have a copy sent to him (the balls on that guy).

                                          Maybe not "death to Hitler," but it's fucking scathing, and the final speech would be considered extreme if it was released today.

                                          Fantastic film if anyone hasn't seen it. Hysterical, on point satire.

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