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  • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

    is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

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    Can't someone just make a lemmy frontend that does this?

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      Natural resources. Oil & LNG (which America exports but much of Europe, China, and India import). They have Uranium fit for nuclear plants (so does Mali, which is why it’s a point of contention between France and Russia). Kind of crappy but still explosive weapons sales. The U.S., France, and China will sell you previous generation weapons that are better than Russia’s best stuff.

      I mean, to vastly oversimplify, it’s a gas station with nuclear weapons and rocket scientists from the Soviet era. It’s not a diversified economy for a country so large. They export grain and shit like that but it’s a whole continent wide and they aren’t efficient about it.

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      To me, Russia fell into the “natural resources trap” where a country can sell oil, gold, diamonds, whatever and the citizens are fine with low taxes and jobs with low taxes but it ultimately can doom you to misrule. A country that doesn’t have oil or whatever has to do things the hard way. Like educate everyone and be a knowledge economy. That’s harder than finding oil.

      Sochi seems lovely and I’d like to visit St Petersburg once relations normalize but no one associates Russia with tourism like they do Italy or France or Thailand or Bali or wherever your nearest tourism hotspot is.

      So, long term, I’d like to see Russia embrace its strengths outside of energy and arms. We’d all be happier. But I’m not in charge so we’ll see what Trump and Putin do instead.

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      • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

        and you can just have stricter rules!! it's not impossible!

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        Tbf if you do have stricter rules the cesspit people would just move on

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        • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

          needing to store everything on and transmit everything from user devices is kind of crazy for a social media. fine for messaging and file sharing, but social media works better when there's a place for the content to actually be stored and accessed from (preferably multiple communicative places!)

          mapto@feddit.bgM This user is from outside of this forum
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          Well, plebbit being text-only means exactly that any media content is being stored remotely on CDNs

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          • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

            is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

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            I think there is quite some overlap with Lemmy. You can do images and threads here. And they even show up in a tree-like structure. I'm not sure about ephermal, I don't think Lemmy is as advanced. But other Fedi software have ephemeral posts.

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            • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

              is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

              irelephant@lemm.eeI This user is from outside of this forum
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              If they are anonymous, they would get defederated extremely quickly.

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              • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                I'll check it out but based on the name im guessing it'll be dogshit

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                Its like bittorrent for social media.

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                • shellmonkey@lemmy.socdojo.comS [email protected]

                  You can make anonymous accounts, but there's a difference between 'breadguy' and 'anon'. Who is literally everyone posting on the board. In the chan world so called namefags are shunned and not thought of as true channers. By having an identifiable name it gives you some measure of reputation, a name that you may hold some regard for, or at least that others could decide if they want to listen to or block.

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                  What if we pgp sign all of our messages

                  ::: spoiler spoiler
                  /s
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                    How would you federate something ephemeral? I'll admit I don't understand the specific techinals of federation but what stops another platform from hosting your content locally after it has supposed to have been deleted? It seems like the two goals of the platforms are diametrically opposed

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                    There is lots of 4chan archivers.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      Can't someone just make a lemmy frontend that does this?

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                      https://fedia.io/m/floatingisfun

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                      • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                        https://fedia.io/m/floatingisfun

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                        Too modern

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                        • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                          Its like bittorrent for social media.

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                          yeah i just mean the name "plebchan" doesnt inspire a lot of confidence

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                            Can't someone just make a lemmy frontend that does this?

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                            yeah could probably get something close. main differences would be chronological comments, ephemeral threads, and anonymous posting

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                            • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                              yeah could probably get something close. main differences would be chronological comments, ephemeral threads, and anonymous posting

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                              What's ephemeral about 4chan?

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                              • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                                yeah i just mean the name "plebchan" doesnt inspire a lot of confidence

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                                I mean, I'm familiar with plebbit and while I think its neat, its very clunky.

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                                • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                                  easily circumvented with temp accounts per thread (ie. [random string]@ instance.domain)

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                                  Sure, but what would be the purpose of using activitypub then if it isn't publishing someone's activity.

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                                  • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                                    Any place with anonymous/ephermal account and posts as the default is going to attract the worst people in the world....

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                                    Wow that changed too politics quickly, why drag Trump and the GOP into this ? 🙂

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                                    • shellmonkey@lemmy.socdojo.comS [email protected]

                                      Anyplace that allows, or in the case of 4chan, encourages purely Anon posting is going to be a cesspit. When there's no accountability, no ID of any sort (even a screen name) to tie actions against then there's no reputation to protect. It might be pleasant at first, but you can bet it won't stay that way for long.

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                                      even a screen name

                                      /. been around for awhile.

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                                      • hanrahan@slrpnk.netH [email protected]

                                        even a screen name

                                        /. been around for awhile.

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                                        Yeah, was kind of clunky worded way to say 'no ID', /. Has screen names but in chan world everyone is the same 'anonymous'. When everyone is faceless and nameless people tend to let the ugly out with ease.

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