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  • shellmonkey@lemmy.socdojo.comS [email protected]

    Anyplace that allows, or in the case of 4chan, encourages purely Anon posting is going to be a cesspit. When there's no accountability, no ID of any sort (even a screen name) to tie actions against then there's no reputation to protect. It might be pleasant at first, but you can bet it won't stay that way for long.

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    If it has the BlueSky moderation tools I think that could go a long ways to keeping it a pleasant place. Quality moderators can help steer the culture of the boards as well.

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    • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

      is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

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      How would you federate something ephemeral? I'll admit I don't understand the specific techinals of federation but what stops another platform from hosting your content locally after it has supposed to have been deleted? It seems like the two goals of the platforms are diametrically opposed

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      • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

        @[email protected] you can make anonymous accounts for free on fedi, the best way to deal with it in both cases is to block tor and IP ban. either way i think freeze peach folks will avoid any platform with "woke" rules

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        You have got to be an absolute newfriend if you think that shit works at all even for 4chan itself.

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          How exactly? You can't just say "better because fedi", that's a non-answer.

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          • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

            youre really smart

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            Thank you. I have a masters in headassery from the Advanced School of Clowning at Bologna. And I interned at the Milan Dick Sucking Factory, which is where I met your parents.

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              You have got to be an absolute newfriend if you think that shit works at all even for 4chan itself.

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              aye, but it's content moderation in general. you can anonymize yourself easily on any platform, 4chan just attracts worse people because of the existing culture

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                Thank you. I have a masters in headassery from the Advanced School of Clowning at Bologna. And I interned at the Milan Dick Sucking Factory, which is where I met your parents.

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                that's awesome

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                • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                  Any place with anonymous/ephermal account and posts as the default is going to attract the worst people in the world....

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                  We basically already have that here with how effortless it is to make accounts

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                  • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                    that's awesome

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                    It’s not a conventional career path but what is in these times of change?

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                    • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                      is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

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                      ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads

                      This describes a general forum format, but you might mean chan imageboards specifically. There have been federated imageboards for a while, but they're very niche and experimental and I don't see the value. The two examples I've heard of are NNTPchan (2015-present, NNTP protocol) and Fchannel (ActivityPub protocol).

                      There's the related imageboard webring, but there's no actual federated interaction between the boards, it's effectively just cross-advertising to allow easier discovery.

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                      • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                        aye, but it's content moderation in general. you can anonymize yourself easily on any platform, 4chan just attracts worse people because of the existing culture

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                        You can make anonymous accounts, but there's a difference between 'breadguy' and 'anon'. Who is literally everyone posting on the board. In the chan world so called namefags are shunned and not thought of as true channers. By having an identifiable name it gives you some measure of reputation, a name that you may hold some regard for, or at least that others could decide if they want to listen to or block.

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                        • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                          is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

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                          Well... Lemmy?

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                          • nexy@lemmy.sdf.orgN [email protected]

                            Well... Lemmy?

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                            yeah like lemmy but different

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                              yeah like lemmy but different

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                              I mean if everything is ephemeral and the users are anonymous and don't log in, the federation wouldn't actually do anything.

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                                Thank you. I have a masters in headassery from the Advanced School of Clowning at Bologna. And I interned at the Milan Dick Sucking Factory, which is where I met your parents.

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                                What product do they actually produce there?

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                                • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF [email protected]

                                  What product do they actually produce there?

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                                  Natural resources. Oil & LNG (which America exports but much of Europe, China, and India import). They have Uranium fit for nuclear plants (so does Mali, which is why it’s a point of contention between France and Russia). Kind of crappy but still explosive weapons sales. The U.S., France, and China will sell you previous generation weapons that are better than Russia’s best stuff.

                                  I mean, to vastly oversimplify, it’s a gas station with nuclear weapons and rocket scientists from the Soviet era. It’s not a diversified economy for a country so large. They export grain and shit like that but it’s a whole continent wide and they aren’t efficient about it.

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                                  • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                                    is there a federated platform similar to 4chan ie. topic boards with ephemeral linear message threads? i dunno how else to describe it but I like the 4chan format, it's just got the worst people in the world on there (which I figure could be mitigated by the federated server type thing)

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                                    Can't someone just make a lemmy frontend that does this?

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                                      Natural resources. Oil & LNG (which America exports but much of Europe, China, and India import). They have Uranium fit for nuclear plants (so does Mali, which is why it’s a point of contention between France and Russia). Kind of crappy but still explosive weapons sales. The U.S., France, and China will sell you previous generation weapons that are better than Russia’s best stuff.

                                      I mean, to vastly oversimplify, it’s a gas station with nuclear weapons and rocket scientists from the Soviet era. It’s not a diversified economy for a country so large. They export grain and shit like that but it’s a whole continent wide and they aren’t efficient about it.

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                                      To me, Russia fell into the “natural resources trap” where a country can sell oil, gold, diamonds, whatever and the citizens are fine with low taxes and jobs with low taxes but it ultimately can doom you to misrule. A country that doesn’t have oil or whatever has to do things the hard way. Like educate everyone and be a knowledge economy. That’s harder than finding oil.

                                      Sochi seems lovely and I’d like to visit St Petersburg once relations normalize but no one associates Russia with tourism like they do Italy or France or Thailand or Bali or wherever your nearest tourism hotspot is.

                                      So, long term, I’d like to see Russia embrace its strengths outside of energy and arms. We’d all be happier. But I’m not in charge so we’ll see what Trump and Putin do instead.

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                                      • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                                        and you can just have stricter rules!! it's not impossible!

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                                        Tbf if you do have stricter rules the cesspit people would just move on

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                                        • breadguy@fedia.ioB [email protected]

                                          needing to store everything on and transmit everything from user devices is kind of crazy for a social media. fine for messaging and file sharing, but social media works better when there's a place for the content to actually be stored and accessed from (preferably multiple communicative places!)

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                                          Well, plebbit being text-only means exactly that any media content is being stored remotely on CDNs

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