Threads is adding fediverse content to your social feeds
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Tumblr is being reworked to have a Wordpress backend right now, and Wordpress already has well working ActivityPub support, so yes, Tumblr will very likely happen once they made the switch.
I suspect the technical debt in Tumblr was larger than expected when the first announce federation support, and now it became nearly a full rewrite, which takes time.
Got it, very interesting! I look forward to it being worked out soon, Wordpress federation is awesome.
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The most they can do is add a load of more users to the fediverse then take them away again. For them to successfully EEE the fediverse, it would require convincing existing fediverse users to switch to threads. I cannot see that happening on here on any noticeable scale.
If anything, Bluesky is the bigger threat as it touts itself as "decentralised" in order to gain users who would have otherwise gone to Mastodon, then easily pull the plug.
"EEE" doesn't really make sense in this context, and even if there was some way for Meta to affect non Meta-owned instances- ActivityPub is an open protocol and Meta is allowed to use it however they want.
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Basically, yes. EEE is a strategy developed by a dominant company whose revenue stream came from paid proprietary software and services but which embraced open standards with the goal of vanquishing the threat to their business model posed by that openness and maintaining/recovering their proprietary domination.
Does ActivityPub being open and used by many different projects & organizations pose a threat to Piefed's business model? Is Piefed a powerful company that built that power on a proprietary model and seeks to preserve that power by embracing, extending, and extinguishing ActivityPub? With the goal of maintaining/recovering proprietary domination?
No. So it ain't EEE.
Yes, EEE is the software version of abusing your market dominance which may have been obtained via innovation (i.e. when Apple launched the iPhone) or enhancement of an already existing good or service (i. e. Lemmy).
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I'm surprised they're still interested in ActivityPub.
Hot Take: This is good because its easier for people to leave threads, since they can still contact their friends on threads. I do think having most instances block them is also good, so people can have a choice (I personally don't want threads).
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Tumblr is being reworked to have a Wordpress backend right now, and Wordpress already has well working ActivityPub support, so yes, Tumblr will very likely happen once they made the switch.
I suspect the technical debt in Tumblr was larger than expected when the first announce federation support, and now it became nearly a full rewrite, which takes time.
Tumblr also downsized to 25 employees (including T&S). I don't expect anything groudbreaking from them soon.
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They've been doing it for quite a while. Very slowly. The problem is it's currently unidirectional, and opt-in. I imagine its the same reason Apple has adopted RCS (also opt-in): legal pressure.
If they just ignore it completely, legislators might completely fuck them like they did Apple with alternative payments. But if they kinda half-ass it then they can point to it and say "SEE, WE HAVE INTEROP! NO MONOPOLY!"
Its a bit charitable to call threads a monopoly since no one uses it.
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Should I feel grubby?
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Its a bit charitable to call threads a monopoly since no one uses it.
- Bit charitable to say "no one uses it" when they have >300M MAU
- Wasn't talking about Threads, I was talking about Meta.
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- Bit charitable to say "no one uses it" when they have >300M MAU
- Wasn't talking about Threads, I was talking about Meta.
I honestly doubt that, It has no relevance -- at all. I see screenshots of bluesky posts everywhere, but rarely see threads posts.
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I honestly doubt that, It has no relevance -- at all. I see screenshots of bluesky posts everywhere, but rarely see threads posts.
You're giving me anecdotes and I'm giving you statistics.
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I'm surprised they're still interested in ActivityPub.
Hot Take: This is good because its easier for people to leave threads, since they can still contact their friends on threads. I do think having most instances block them is also good, so people can have a choice (I personally don't want threads).
I'm not surprised, but I agree with the hot take, so maybe it's only warm.
I think they keep interest in ActivityPub in order to keep regulators concerned with Antitrust at bay. The Fediverse isn't a real threat in Meta's view and keeping an engineer or two on it in order to stay invested is worth the cost.
Threads can say they are making an honest effort to work with the larger open source community and open federated internet. As an added bonus, it isn't actually a lie. Now the effort they're putting in is the absolute minimum, but it's there.
Now I still do think this is a positive. While most people on Threads will probably never leave, it does introduce them to the wider Fediverse. It makes the Fediverse a less scary thing.
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You're giving me anecdotes and I'm giving you statistics.
I know, but the source for your statistic is Meta themselves.
