The irony
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THAT is the problem... we cannot filter them out. The real enshitification of the web has barely began.
I understand it will be a cat and mouse game. But surely its possible to make a curated list of big offenders akin to advertisement block lists?
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Anybody remember what it was like 16+ years ago when "most questions" hadn't already been asked yet?
PS: lol https://web.archive.org/web/20090330211513/http://stackoverflow.com/
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Not necessarily about stack overflow. But i just got myself in a situation where the first search result I found for a problem was clearly AI generated. And the solution it provided was not at all technically possible.
The AI decline is really terrible...That said, does anyone know of an extension or block list for those terrible AI slob websites? Or a way to filter it from duckduckgo?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This AI blocklist for uBlacklist and uBlock origin should help.
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In my time we didn't paste LLM-generated code we barely understand and hoped it compiled, let alone work. We pasted code from stack overflow we barely understood and hoped it compiled and let alone work, as god intended.
God has no hand in programming. He's just as confused as us.
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well yeah they went all in on ai.
I use SO all the time and I truly had no idea... You mean a lot of answers are submitted by users who used AI?
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I use SO all the time and I truly had no idea... You mean a lot of answers are submitted by users who used AI?
other way around. they pivoted to offering enterprise solutions based on ai interpretations of their database to business customers. only they were too slow, since everyone had already scraped them.
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God has no hand in programming. He's just as confused as us.
Oh there's definitely some elder gods involved with programming when I do it.
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Good riddance. Whenever I search for a programming question I'd always hope for a) an official documentation page or, failing that, b) a page on a dedicated forum for the tool that I was using that covered the problem. I'd only ever click on SO links if I had no other choice.
And, of course, I'd never search for a problem on SO itself.
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Stack overflow has always been ego and arrogance. Personally I'd love to see a federated version, we all host shards
Individual tools already often host their own Q&A or forum systems. We just need to encourage more of that.
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This AI blocklist for uBlacklist and uBlock origin should help.
That's for images though, not text content.
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In my time we didn't paste LLM-generated code we barely understand and hoped it compiled, let alone work. We pasted code from stack overflow we barely understood and hoped it compiled and let alone work, as god intended.
Now we're still pasting code from stack overflow we don't understand, we're just getting it from an LLM
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Stack overflow has always been ego and arrogance. Personally I'd love to see a federated version, we all host shards
Why would you think it would be different
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Oh there's definitely some elder gods involved with programming when I do it.
User Feedback, the Crawling Chaos, the Haunter of the Dark... I feel its tendrils of madness reaching for my mind even now. I am not ready for this. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh caffeine R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Iä! Iä!
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Good riddance. Whenever I search for a programming question I'd always hope for a) an official documentation page or, failing that, b) a page on a dedicated forum for the tool that I was using that covered the problem. I'd only ever click on SO links if I had no other choice.
And, of course, I'd never search for a problem on SO itself.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Eh, I hate its culture, but I regularly find useful excel or regex answers on StackExchange.
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Mods be thinking that if they dig SO's grave deep enough it will emerge on the other side of the world.
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Stack overflow has always been ego and arrogance. Personally I'd love to see a federated version, we all host shards
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yes please. I tried participating in some StackExchange communities many years ago, but they felt so hostile to new contributors. Like I asked an immigration-related question about my personal situation, and multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end
Oh no, we can't have a bit of humanity in there... Multiple similar experiences left such a bitter taste, that I ended up deleting most of my sub-profiles. I found Reddit-style communities much more helpful. Even wikis are typically nowhere near this hostile.SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a "generic public" rather than the actual people asking the questions. (Or even answering them, with all the reputation restrictions on accounts.) I'm sure I'm not the only contributor they pushed away
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Yes please. I tried participating in some StackExchange communities many years ago, but they felt so hostile to new contributors. Like I asked an immigration-related question about my personal situation, and multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end
Oh no, we can't have a bit of humanity in there... Multiple similar experiences left such a bitter taste, that I ended up deleting most of my sub-profiles. I found Reddit-style communities much more helpful. Even wikis are typically nowhere near this hostile.SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a "generic public" rather than the actual people asking the questions. (Or even answering them, with all the reputation restrictions on accounts.) I'm sure I'm not the only contributor they pushed away
multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end
Well, the Welcome Tour tells you that SO is about “just questions and answers”. This facilitates finding a question that’s written as concise as possible, checking its answer, and leaving. SO is deliberately not like a forum.
SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a “generic public” rather than the actual people asking the questions.
This is just another consequence of not being a forum. Of course SO wants questions to be helpful to as many people as possible. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.
If you want a laxer approach to handling quality, consider if you’ve ever found useful information on yahoo answers.
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multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end
Well, the Welcome Tour tells you that SO is about “just questions and answers”. This facilitates finding a question that’s written as concise as possible, checking its answer, and leaving. SO is deliberately not like a forum.
SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a “generic public” rather than the actual people asking the questions.
This is just another consequence of not being a forum. Of course SO wants questions to be helpful to as many people as possible. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.
If you want a laxer approach to handling quality, consider if you’ve ever found useful information on yahoo answers.
I understand it's not a forum (though tbh I can't remember a welcome tour, but it was more than a decade ago, so could have just forgot), but even with that I just find the whole atmosphere kinda cold and elitist. Not a community that invites participation, like Wikipedia does. But each to our own
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Thanks Cloudflare for giving me a moment of reflection on why the fuck I am heading to Stack Overflow so I can close the tab before I get there.
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Now we're still pasting code from stack overflow we don't understand, we're just getting it from an LLM
Yes, but did the LLM get it from the answers or the questions?....
