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  • rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

    The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

    PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

    The fragmentation problem is solved.

    M fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD meldrik@lemmy.wtfM 11 Replies Last reply
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    • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

      What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

      The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

      PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

      The fragmentation problem is solved.

      M This user is from outside of this forum
      M This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      That's a pretty good methodology. Threads are still distinct, but all on the same page. Hopefully lemmy can implement somtjing similair.

      I would reduce the distinctiveness, personally. Lemmy/reddit/etc commonly have separate subthreads on thr same page, so its not like it needs to be a prominent feature that each subthread is from a different comm. Note it maybe, but less prominent seems better.

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      • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

        What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

        The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

        PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

        The fragmentation problem is solved.

        fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
        fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Firstly: Thank you for your work! ❀

        It's pretty hard to tell where the split is when you're in a big comment section.

        So i updated the fxomt theme to make it easier to tell the split: https://pub.microbin.eu/upload/otter-pony-duck

        Difference:

        I think the default theme definitely needs to have that solved, though.

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          That's a pretty good methodology. Threads are still distinct, but all on the same page. Hopefully lemmy can implement somtjing similair.

          I would reduce the distinctiveness, personally. Lemmy/reddit/etc commonly have separate subthreads on thr same page, so its not like it needs to be a prominent feature that each subthread is from a different comm. Note it maybe, but less prominent seems better.

          fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
          fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          A couple of issues with little to no distinction:

          • Community rules. If 4 communities were in the same thread at once this would be harder for moderators to moderate, and for users to follow the rules/report. Since they can't tell easily from which thread this comment comes from

          • Threads are not always crossposted with the same context. Example:

          • https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40368868

          • https://reddthat.com/post/37396001

          These threads are posted in different communities, their comment sections would be very different

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          • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

            Firstly: Thank you for your work! ❀

            It's pretty hard to tell where the split is when you're in a big comment section.

            So i updated the fxomt theme to make it easier to tell the split: https://pub.microbin.eu/upload/otter-pony-duck

            Difference:

            I think the default theme definitely needs to have that solved, though.

            die4ever@programming.devD This user is from outside of this forum
            die4ever@programming.devD This user is from outside of this forum
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            even just some margin-top would help

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            • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

              What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

              The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

              PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

              The fragmentation problem is solved.

              bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB This user is from outside of this forum
              bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              What happens when three different users post libks to the same article? Or when the test is different? Basically how do you match these posts?

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              • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

                The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

                PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

                The fragmentation problem is solved.

                db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                That is excellent! I had suggested something similar for lemmy frontend devs to implement, but I love to see it natively on piefed.

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                • bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB [email protected]

                  What happens when three different users post libks to the same article? Or when the test is different? Basically how do you match these posts?

                  rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                  rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  They are matched by the url of where the post links to. So this only works for posts that have a url, not discussion or image posts.

                  bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB die4ever@programming.devD 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                    They are matched by the url of where the post links to. So this only works for posts that have a url, not discussion or image posts.

                    bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB This user is from outside of this forum
                    bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    Ok so exactly how mbin spots cross posts at the moment. But combining the comment sections is a cool idea. Obviously requires your server to be subscribed to the different communities, but still cool πŸ‘

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                    • bentigorlich@gehirneimer.deB [email protected]

                      Ok so exactly how mbin spots cross posts at the moment. But combining the comment sections is a cool idea. Obviously requires your server to be subscribed to the different communities, but still cool πŸ‘

                      rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      Yes we had a lot of inspiration from Mbin for this one.

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                      • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                        They are matched by the url of where the post links to. So this only works for posts that have a url, not discussion or image posts.

                        die4ever@programming.devD This user is from outside of this forum
                        die4ever@programming.devD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        what happens when there's 2 different posts in the same community with the same URL, example:

                        https://programming.dev/post/8880813

                        https://programming.dev/post/1721399

                        (I can't find a more recent example right now)

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                        • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                          Yes we had a lot of inspiration from Mbin for this one.

                          snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                          snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          So that's why cross-post won't available everywhere ? Only certain use case ?

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                          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                            That is excellent! I had suggested something similar for lemmy frontend devs to implement, but I love to see it natively on piefed.

                            snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                            snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            That's why i recommand our instance moving to Piefed, it provides a better experience each update.

                            It is not ready yet for daily users. it will be difficult as there is no mobile app, but there is so much improvement...

                            So fell free to give your feedback to PieFed. πŸ™‚

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                            • die4ever@programming.devD [email protected]

                              what happens when there's 2 different posts in the same community with the same URL, example:

                              https://programming.dev/post/8880813

                              https://programming.dev/post/1721399

                              (I can't find a more recent example right now)

                              rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                              rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Those comments get merged into one tree. I think, didn't actually test that.

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                              • snoopy@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                                So that's why cross-post won't available everywhere ? Only certain use case ?

                                rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Yes, url is the only reliable way I could think of to match posts.

                                For image posts we could use a hash of the image data. But image cross-posts are not common so it doesn't seem urgent.

                                snoopy@piefed.socialS bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                  Yes, url is the only reliable way I could think of to match posts.

                                  For image posts we could use a hash of the image data. But image cross-posts are not common so it doesn't seem urgent.

                                  snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Okay, thank a lot i understand better. Perfect. πŸ™‚

                                  We use crosspost for english meme however a multi-meme community will solve it. If we regroup them in a topic, we won't need crosspost.

                                  I wanted to use it for Peertube. The only problem i see is that [comment on a crosspost] won't post comment on the peertube video.

                                  And if we comment their video, that would solve peertube problem : they have no comments on their video.

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                                  • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                    What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

                                    The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

                                    PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

                                    The fragmentation problem is solved.

                                    meldrik@lemmy.wtfM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    meldrik@lemmy.wtfM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    Really cool work.

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                                    • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                      What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

                                      The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

                                      PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

                                      The fragmentation problem is solved.

                                      blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
                                      blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      Very cool, thanks!

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                                      • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                        Yes, url is the only reliable way I could think of to match posts.

                                        For image posts we could use a hash of the image data. But image cross-posts are not common so it doesn't seem urgent.

                                        bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        You could add linking to the same post, eg crossposting, to the criteria.

                                        The urge to switch my server to piefed grows bigger every day.

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                                        • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                          What do you notice about the comments on this post? https://piefed.social/post/555259

                                          The post was made in the [email protected] community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in [email protected] and in [email protected]. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.

                                          PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.

                                          The fragmentation problem is solved.

                                          P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          I only see one title and one post body; what happens if 3 people share the same link but with 3 different titles and description bodies?

                                          Do they get merged, does one get arbitrarily selected? Or does this only work on posts with identical link+title+body?

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