[OC] Personal opinion on Jackson Pollock's drip art
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Very polite of you to make that comment. I, however, am willing to be a dick.
Pollock was a drunk and a hack, Kandinsky is the abstract artist we should be celebrating as a household name.
Also I'm p sure I read that Pollock killed a dude while drunk driving and got away with it but I don't care enough about him one way or another to verify that before posting it on lemmy dot com.
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I thought the same about abstract art until I saw that one painting in the movie Ex Machina. For some reason in that context it just evoked feelings of dread more than almost any other scene in the movie. And it's an almost static shot just staring at this one abstract painting. It was really interesting and totally changed my mind on abstract art.
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Very polite of you to make that comment. I, however, am willing to be a dick.
Pollock was a drunk and a hack, Kandinsky is the abstract artist we should be celebrating as a household name.
Also I'm p sure I read that Pollock killed a dude while drunk driving and got away with it but I don't care enough about him one way or another to verify that before posting it on lemmy dot com.
Agree completely. I think Pollock was just really good at bullshitting people and once you are a big name you can pretty much make whatever you want and people will add value because of your name.
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Agree completely. I think Pollock was just really good at bullshitting people and once you are a big name you can pretty much make whatever you want and people will add value because of your name.
He was a commercial artist through and through, that is for certain. His pieces have that je ne sais bullshit feel that comes from people producing art as product, not art.
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He was a commercial artist through and through, that is for certain. His pieces have that je ne sais bullshit feel that comes from people producing art as product, not art.
I'm gonna have to try and remember "je ne sais bullshit". That's a good one.
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Not trying to be a dick, if you enjoy his art that's great
I was similar until I saw him actually painting. There is something about the process that makes me love it. It's weird to me too that I feel that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Uj_HAAvbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrVE-WQBcYQ&list=RDCrVE-WQBcYQ&start_radio=1
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I thought the same about abstract art until I saw that one painting in the movie Ex Machina. For some reason in that context it just evoked feelings of dread more than almost any other scene in the movie. And it's an almost static shot just staring at this one abstract painting. It was really interesting and totally changed my mind on abstract art.
I feel the same way about Nude Descending a Staircase. Normally cubism or turn of the century modern art doesn’t do it for me, but for some reason I can just…stare at that painting. It’s oddly fascinating in a way I can’t fully describe. I want to get a print of it for my house.
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I was similar until I saw him actually painting. There is something about the process that makes me love it. It's weird to me too that I feel that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Uj_HAAvbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrVE-WQBcYQ&list=RDCrVE-WQBcYQ&start_radio=1
Appreciation of art is always 100% subjective (except technique). So your opinion is just as valid.
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Appreciation of art is always 100% subjective (except technique). So your opinion is just as valid.
Oh for sure, I believe everyone's opinion is valid as well. I'm just surprised that seeing him paint made me appreciate the art more. That is interesting to me. It reminds me of monks making sand mandalas, like he was meditating. I doubt he was drunk since he has to paint systematically and mainly on one leg.
Sand mandala being made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCwLLo_9D-E
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I think Pollock paintings are fine. I’ve seen his paintings in an art gallery at least once.
Compared to most other modern art in the same gallery, Pollock was actually visually pleasing to look at. He knew which colors work well together, which is uhm great.
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Lots of drip though
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Very polite of you to make that comment. I, however, am willing to be a dick.
Pollock was a drunk and a hack, Kandinsky is the abstract artist we should be celebrating as a household name.
Also I'm p sure I read that Pollock killed a dude while drunk driving and got away with it but I don't care enough about him one way or another to verify that before posting it on lemmy dot com.
Can’t tell if you are on the Neanderthal man spectrum or Jedi knight spectrum of bell curve.
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Tax dodges for the rich don't need to look good, they just need hype.
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Can’t tell if you are on the Neanderthal man spectrum or Jedi knight spectrum of bell curve.
Me? Probably Neanderthal.
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Tax dodges for the rich don't need to look good, they just need hype.
Sure, but if I were to do that, I'd at least buy something nice.
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I think Maude Lebowski was a better painter
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Didn't the CIA covertly drive up his price by secretly overpaying for his paintings?
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Didn't the CIA covertly drive up his price by secretly overpaying for his paintings?
Never heard of that, but I love an actual (with evidence) conspiracy theory. Spare me any conspiracy hypotheses tho, please.
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Very polite of you to make that comment. I, however, am willing to be a dick.
Pollock was a drunk and a hack, Kandinsky is the abstract artist we should be celebrating as a household name.
Also I'm p sure I read that Pollock killed a dude while drunk driving and got away with it but I don't care enough about him one way or another to verify that before posting it on lemmy dot com.
Kandinsky is the abstract artist we should be celebrating
Had to look this up, and wow yeah, that is some very striking, abstract art from someone who has definitely refined their craft and worked hard to do so. Very cool imagery.
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Pollock is popular because of this exact thing. He "challenged" the idea of art as the Dada movement had done. You can absolutely hate it but like Warhol it made conversations and questions about process and astetics. By making a meme about it you have in fact thought about what art is and aesthetics you prefer. A Pollock painting made you do that.
People saying he do not select colors or use technique is just false. He would use a pulley system for large scale canvases and spread the colors quite purposefully. Remember this is the time of "happenings" like applying body paint and rolling on canvases, cutting up the canvas and applying newsprint, burning things, etc.
I don't even like Pollock but not to recognize him in museums within a moment of abstract expression would be a disservice. I've had plenty of students say. "I could paint that!". But there are two points they always misunderstand. 1. Pollock was an established painter who drastically changed styles. Many artists show that they can paint or draw in the traditional style but choose to push what is even art. Some people at this time said the "process" was art not the painting hanging in the museum. 2. Everyone who tries to replicate a Pollock typically just uses some random paints with some bushes and just sort of flings it around. If you actually look at a Pollock in person up close. Yes you can see unevenness is created from not having full control of the paint on the brush but thought seems to go into exactly where the paint will land so that you have even coverage or at angles with different brushes. They is motion in how the paint drips. I can say that many of them I've seen are very much not "random" as you would think it would be.
Again I don't care for the work as there are plenty of other abstract expressions to choose from like Hans Hofmann, Helen Frankenthaler who used Pollock as an influence.
