Warner Bros. Cancels Planned ‘Hogwarts Legacy’ Game Expansion
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Rowling having slightly more money makes no difference to her spewing her views, she is set for life anyway. Yes I'd like to avoid giving her money, but a much stronger signal I'd like to send is that a game with trans characters sells well.
She explicitly said that she would use the royalties she gets from the game to lobby for transphobic organisations.
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I’ve seen plenty of “punching down” towards people who buy a game simply to enjoy it. It’s kind of happening in this thread.
If I buy a Trump bible to "enjoy" it, would you say that is wrong just because I give money to a fascist that is hellbent on killing minorities? Would telling me off be punching down as well?
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If you respected the rules it wouldn't have to be moderated.
Calling Rowling a terf is OK (you are stating the obvious in such case), telling another user to fuck off, or for specific group of people to die isn't.
Rowling should be shot in the gut and then be left to bleed out and people who support her should suffer for it.
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she makes money from the brand getting attention because she is the creator of the setting. no one gives a shit about this game without the setting.
you are excusing enabling terfs and fascism because you have no ability to think beyond your own nose. but please make more excuses and lie to yourself more.
You are driven by hate. Rowling is not going to get any more "enabled" than she already is with her bottomless pit of money. If you are truly an ally, suggest better media to support, rather than being combative and alienating everyone in the proces.
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Yeah why would they keep making games that were successful when instead they could make games that no one asked for
Some of the best games are games that no one asked for.
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Gift link, so it should be accessible to all.
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If I buy a Trump bible to "enjoy" it, would you say that is wrong just because I give money to a fascist that is hellbent on killing minorities? Would telling me off be punching down as well?
I don’t criticize people for how they spend their money. Do as you will.
Nice straw man though.
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Yeah why would they keep making games that were successful when instead they could make games that no one asked for
Someone high up in WB asked for it, clearly someone who knows better than all those developers and consumers
/s
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I haven't played the game nor do I want to. What I said is still true nonetheless. If you want to convince someone to boycott a piece of media, being a presumptuous dickhead is the exact opposite way you accomplish that.
I am trans myself fucker. Someone who has to live with the vile shit terfs are spewing. Either way, someone disagreeing with you is not ""performative moral grand standing""".
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Ever looked at an advert? Bought a computer? Eaten food produced by a multinational chain like Nestlé? Almost every action you take will involve generating money for an absolute shit. It's fine (even encouraged) to let people who might not know that Rowing is a horrible bigot, but don't have a go at someone for enjoying a fucking video game.
That's not an excuse to not even try.
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Hyperbole is when person asks you to not play one single video game to show support for trans people when you can easily play anything else instead. How dare they, so mean. Exactly like the fascists who support MAGA
Wow, that comment makes you look fucking dumb, not knowing what hyperbole means
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It's disappointing that even here on the fediverse people are cheering for the franchise of someone who's sole motivation these days seems to be hating trans people.
Because there are people who can still love a franchise and not the person who created it?
Wow, blew your mind.
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Because there are people who can still love a franchise and not the person who created it?
Wow, blew your mind.
Because they keep making terfs richer. Don't know why that seems such a hard concept to understand. Just admit that you don't give a shit about trans people and move on.
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I don't because they're not really comparable.
There are many other electrics cars, many of them better and/or cheaper and entirely interchangable. Boycotting Tesla just means getting a direct substitute instead. There aren't any substitutes for HP games because the IP itself is the whole point.
Another point where they're not comparable: Tesla isn't the problem here, Elon is and he needs to go. And he can be gotten rid of, which is the entire point of the boycot.
Meanwhile, there is no mechanism legal or otherwise to remove Rowling from the equation. The only thing boycotting HP products achieves is making the companies involved fail and preventing any further HP products from being developed.
So what does that achieve?So: given that boycotting Tesla is both easy and effective, while boycotting HP is a personal sacrifice for no real effect, surely you see the difference?
It isn't for "no real effect". Harry Potter is a merchandise empire and it's important to see how that empire is being utilized. Open fan support of Harry Potter is often used as a direct open signal of anti-trans support and Terf ideology. Here in Vancouver where we have a larger than average population of trans and non-binary folk and more open accommodation to the community a billboard was put up saying "I
️ JK Rowling" downtown because it's a more nebulous dogwhistle that wouldn't immediately ping Canada's hate speech laws so that the whole "Freedom of Speech" ploy could be envoked.Whenever a new HP franchise item comes out there's a wave of people who flood online and sometimes in person trans spaces who use the barest veneer of support of the franchise as a means to say some truely awful things about trans people. Some don't even bother mentioning the franchise they just participate in the storming because they have the opportunity. Those spaces are often filled with vulnerable people seeking support and solidarity and these rushes can leave isolated trans people without community for weeks.
Here in Van someone wearing HP merch in any queer space is throwing up a flag that says "I am potentially an unsafe person."
Article of the billboard.
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5722244
You don't have to give up your books. All we ask is that people do not white knight the author or the publication and merchandising empire which keeps making her influence into an active memetic weapon.
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Totally valid criticism, I absolutely agree with you. Times are tough for trans folk and giving money to transphobes is not helping that.
Looking back on it, I wouldn't buy it having seen how far off the deep end she has gone. I admit I dismissed her at the time as just a nutjob on Twitter but she's now proved to me that she is a bigot beyond reproach.
I also find myself in a better educated position than I was at that time. I have more LGBTQ friends and family than ever and I'm challenging anti-trans behaviour in others when I spot it.
It's less about giving money to the woman herself and more about how HP and JK Rowling are used as memetic weapons. Every release of a new property has seen a rush of transphobic actors invading trans spaces for years. Invoking the name of the author and showing solidarity in a lot of contexts is a not subtle way of showing support to the veiws expressed by the Terf ideology during a time when being trans is becoming criminalized in more places. The news isn't generally covering it well but Texas is passing laws where it is a criminal offense to misrepresent your birth sex at work or in public government spaces.
"Oh but it's just money" isn't so much the problem. It's the cover this entire conversation about ethical consumption or the lack thereof in daily life is providing to people throwing up open flags of anti-trans bigotry in public and using that as a tool to band together to attack the community and send open messages that trans people are not welcome in ways that the average cis person will dismiss as just "they like kid wizards".
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I am trans myself fucker. Someone who has to live with the vile shit terfs are spewing. Either way, someone disagreeing with you is not ""performative moral grand standing""".
You're right, which is why I didn't say that it was. You and the person I'm responding to are being toxic and you're not helping yourself by doing that. I am and have always been a defender of trans people, and you are jumping at every opportunity to assume I'm not simply because I don't agree with your methodology. That's retarded. Grow the fuck up.
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Because they keep making terfs richer. Don't know why that seems such a hard concept to understand. Just admit that you don't give a shit about trans people and move on.
A single terf who is already as wealthy as a person can be so any additional wealth doesn't matter. Being a toxic shithead to people for being a fan of something is not going to help trans people, nor is it going to make JK Rowling lose all her money.
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A single terf who is already as wealthy as a person can be so any additional wealth doesn't matter. Being a toxic shithead to people for being a fan of something is not going to help trans people, nor is it going to make JK Rowling lose all her money.
On the topic of JK Rowling. Has she been really silent the past months or did I just miss the times she has been posting hate?
Maybe she got rid of the mold and her brain is in healing.
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On the topic of JK Rowling. Has she been really silent the past months or did I just miss the times she has been posting hate?
Maybe she got rid of the mold and her brain is in healing.
I hope her pile of money fell on her and crushed her to death
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You're right, both sides aren't the same. One side has devolved into foregoing what we like to think of as humanity because they have a boner for hate and the other makes excuses on why degrading themselves to the same level isn't the same.
It's a play on words. I'll skip the nuances and get right down to the core, "they started murdering people, so I'm murdering them back". But here's the thing, killing is still killing, even in self-defense.
No matter how many justifications, running away from this concept only serves to bring you ever closer to the mentality of the other side.The very simplified "both sides" is alluding to the idea that both are very much willing to give up empathy, ethics and law if it means getting rid of the opposite side.
The selective application of these three concepts is what bridges you together in a way that makes an outside observer say "so similar, they might as well be the same" a.k.a. "both sides".No exception to empathy, no exception to ethics, no exception to law, no matter how saintly and no matter how evil.
The right: let putin take over, he's a strong man and one of us
The left: Let us not defend against putin and take him over, because violence is bad.
I think I get your point.
