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  • A [email protected]

    Managers dont even do the half ass work theyre supposed to anymore for their inflated salaries.

    A lot of jobs that even require degrees and licensing are having managers ask people to find their own coverage. The managerial class is the ultimate fucking waste of space.

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    The only coverage I will go after is oncall cover, daily coverage is absolutely management's responsibility. I inform my boss what I'm sick or will be taking PTO, and he handles coverage or telling other departments to fuck off for as long as someone is out and we have to keep our core availability open.

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      This is the problem with the idea that we should always be giving 110%. Companies should have enough people to deal with staffing issues. Wtf are they going to do when you die? Just fold the company and fire everyone?

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      • General, we need 10000 soldiers to take that place.
      • Don't worry. We'll send 1000 and tell them "if you don't do it we have another 100000 soldiers to do your job"
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      • P [email protected]

        Ask again when you get back, now that they know just how necessary you are. And if they still choose to say fuck you, don't work as hard as you keep looking. After all, you're still recovering 😉

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        Exactly lol. I might also have gone into premature menopause because of my surgery, so I'm feeling absolutely awful and am in no mood for bullshit

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        • A [email protected]

          Where I live taking all your days is mandatory, by law. The company gets punished if you don’t, so the HR guys actually remind you to do it. There is a small flexibility (you can take part of your days in next year Q1) but you cannot swap your days for money, nor ‘give them’ to another employee.

          Did I mention we have 25 workdays of paid vacation, by the way? 😉

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          Where I work we're only allowed to roll five vacation days forward. Any days not taken above that are paid out at the end of fiscal from the budget of the director, so there is a rather firm rule against management declining vacation requests unless absolutely necessary. Come February, emails are generated every couple of weeks reminding managers to follow up up with employees who have more than a week remaining, so it's used by March 31.

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            Where I work we're only allowed to roll five vacation days forward. Any days not taken above that are paid out at the end of fiscal from the budget of the director, so there is a rather firm rule against management declining vacation requests unless absolutely necessary. Come February, emails are generated every couple of weeks reminding managers to follow up up with employees who have more than a week remaining, so it's used by March 31.

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            Where I live you are legally allowed to take as many days as you want forward. But you are allowed to take all of them at once if you want to, so most companies force you (they are allowed to do that) to take your vacation within the year, since otherwise people bunch it up and then leave for half a year of paid leave.

            There was a guy in the newspaper a while ago who never took vacation for decades and ended up taking all days before retirement to retire a few years earlier.

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            • R [email protected]

              any company that advertises unlimited PTO just don't bother applying. you'll never get that PTO and there's nothing to pay out when you quit. add to the fact that they're clearly saying "we prefer to hire idiots"

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              This. Imagine a company advertising "Unlimited wages (manager's discretion)". Would you seriously think that's a good deal?

              "Unlimited PTO (manager's discretion)" is exactly the same thing.

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                Tell them to quit busting their ass for a company that despises them. If the company just keeps throwing work ontop of overworked employees, task prioritization kicks in and I start asking for priority lists to determine what has to be done and what can slip. When I get told that it's all important and nothing slips, I just respond with 'hire someone or tell me what has to complete or can be missed, or I'll use my best judgement and choose what I work on'. You have me for 40hrs, maybe 45 on a bad week. If you give me 60 hours worth of work in a 40 hour week, I'm going to let 1/3 of what you give me burn. It's your choice what gets burned lol.

                I loved the day that a shit manager said he'd fire me for that, and he really did not appreciate the combo response of "don't threaten me with a good time" and "lol you don't have the manpower for your work as is and are getting hell from upper management, you can't afford to lose me". Was very satisfying to quit with no notice a month later while he was talking shit about replacing me. Heard it took a few months to find that replacement too.

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                This. A company paying for 100% effort shouldn't expect 150%.

                And most companies don't even pay 100%.

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                  sounds like you should hire more people, cunt

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                  • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW [email protected]

                    I wish I had learned to jump ship sooner instead of swallowing so much bullshit. The social contract is dead. Right to work cuts both ways bitches. Quit with no notice when employers haven't done shit to earn your loyalty. The bridges we burn today light the path forward.

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                    That is exactly what I want to scream to young people! Stop bitching about your employer, take the experience you're gaining, fuck 'em. Rinse and repeat until you land where you're happy.

                    Moved down here with two good friends. One went to work at an oil change place, way below his skillset and experience. Kept swapping jobs until he was a service manager making $100K at the largest dealership chain in town. Minimum wage to $100K in less than 10 years, and I'm sure he's well above that now. Imagine that!

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                    • P [email protected]

                      My ex was so happy when they went to unlimited PTO, but she's overworked as it is and nobody does her job when she's not there, on top of her boss just dumping her work down on her. So she has to do extra work on the day before and after, so she just quit taking days off until HR told her she needed to take 4 days off in the next 2 weeks and that just meant 8 days of busting her ass, and she was livid.

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                      "has to do extra work" ... that is a question of priorities, isn't it.

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                        She has ADHD like me. She won't stop and she gets taken advantage of.

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                        It sounds more like work addiction, though.

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                          It sounds more like work addiction, though.

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                          You don't know ADHD, then.

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                            Where I live you are legally allowed to take as many days as you want forward. But you are allowed to take all of them at once if you want to, so most companies force you (they are allowed to do that) to take your vacation within the year, since otherwise people bunch it up and then leave for half a year of paid leave.

                            There was a guy in the newspaper a while ago who never took vacation for decades and ended up taking all days before retirement to retire a few years earlier.

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                            My dream

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                            • launcheskayaks@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                              Exactly lol. I might also have gone into premature menopause because of my surgery, so I'm feeling absolutely awful and am in no mood for bullshit

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                              From what I've heard about menopause is the reduced patience and tolerance for bullshit has uses

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                              • launcheskayaks@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                I went on 4 weeks of medical leave for surgery. I'm on week 3 rn. 3 days after my leave started, I learned it was an absolute shit show without me and work was piling up because there weren't enough people to do the big tasks and the many tiny little things that I do. I get told on the daily by my two work besties that they can't wait for me to come back because of how awful it has been without me. Apparently even the big boss was saying that my presence is missed and that I do so much more than he had realized. I just try to keep myself busy so boredom doesn't kick in.

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                                I'm also on sick leave.
                                The last friday I worked they told me I had to learn someone else's job in the next week since she was going on vacation.
                                That is simply an impossible task.
                                And somehow they didn't think of that before, since vacations are planned months before?

                                This is me at home knowing they have to deal with their own fuck ups:

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                                  I worked in a destination outdoors chain. My departments I ran at different points were firearms and marine electronics. Both were high-dollar purchases that usually involve 1:1 interactions with workers.

                                  When someone doesn't buy a $4000 sonar unit because nobody was on the floor in that department it hurts.

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                                  Holy shit your bosses must have been absolutely fucking brain dead pieces of shit. Why not just tell them they were mistaken and lie?

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                                    Holy shit your bosses must have been absolutely fucking brain dead pieces of shit. Why not just tell them they were mistaken and lie?

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                                    The higgher-up managers came out of from other departments like clothing or gifts. They were used to departments where the only job of the staff was to re-stick stuff and point out bathroom locations. You don't need an expert salesman to help you pick a shirt or novelty mug.

                                    They didn't understand that people coming to the store to buy sonar or a trolling motor don't know what they need to know to pick a unit. Or that someone isn't going to wait an hour in line for a salesman to talk to them about buying a gun that they legally cannot buy without going through the salesman, when they could go to 5 different stores in the same town and get service immediately.

                                    To be fair, many of those managers didn't last long. I personally got HR to fire the AGM when one of my salesman let me know that the AGM forced one of my people to sell a gun to someone after another employee had refused to sell it to them because they thought it was a straw purchase.

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