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Does anyone actually take into account "IP Rating"/"Water Resistance" when they buy phones?

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    I want stories please

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    Nothing crazy. Just a phone ending up in either the bath, the toilet, gravy, sand, whatever. Kinda surprising what an iPhone will endure tbh.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

      I don't really look for "this one's rated to 20 meters but this one only 10" I just want to see a water resistance rating of some kind. Which, it is my understanding the Galaxy Folds don't have.

      My phone will be in my pocket during five years of sudden rain storms, sweat, washing cars, fixing sinks etc. It needs to be able to survive getting dunked in a bucket of water. I'm not taking it diving, but also my chauffeur isn't going to hold an umbrella while I climb into the limousine.

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      Folds have water ratings but no (or worse) dust ratings. So you can use them in the rain but be careful in a beach, wood shop, etc.

      The first number in the rating is dust resistance, and the second is water resistance. So an IP 48 phone (new Samsung folds) has the same water resistance but worse dust resistance than an IP 68 phone (e.g. S25). IP X8 means there is no dust resistance but it is water resistant. IP 6X would be the other way around.

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      • zangoose@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

        Folds have water ratings but no (or worse) dust ratings. So you can use them in the rain but be careful in a beach, wood shop, etc.

        The first number in the rating is dust resistance, and the second is water resistance. So an IP 48 phone (new Samsung folds) has the same water resistance but worse dust resistance than an IP 68 phone (e.g. S25). IP X8 means there is no dust resistance but it is water resistant. IP 6X would be the other way around.

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        I am a woodworker, my phone also needs to survive being completely submerged in sanding dust.

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          Thanks for the link!

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          You're welcome!

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            I did back in the day. Now everything is IP67 or whatever's the most common one. It's honestly a crapshoot, my Xperia Z3 died from just being in the shower room while I showered, nowhere near the water but vaguely steamy in there.

            I accidentally flushed, yes - flushed my Pixel 1 XL down the toilet and it was fine (it swam up).

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            Right?! Electronics would straight rust, quickly. Remember having to take your watch off to wash your hands? Now I have a collection of Casios and would be shocked if any so much as got foggy. LOL, now you can pull the battery and put your motherboard in the dish washer.

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              Right?! Electronics would straight rust, quickly. Remember having to take your watch off to wash your hands? Now I have a collection of Casios and would be shocked if any so much as got foggy. LOL, now you can pull the battery and put your motherboard in the dish washer.

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              Wrong post.

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                No, I grew up with phones (and electronics in general) not being water tight or resistant so I sort of still have the mindset of not taking my phone near lakes/bathtubs and putting it away when it's raining.

                Haven't really had a problem with water damage in all the years of owning phones. Most of my phones were not water tight/resistant because they were older Nokias, had a replaced battery or are Fairphones.

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                Right?! Electronics would straight rust, quickly. Remember having to take your watch off to wash your hands? Now I have a collection of Casios and would be shocked if any so much as got foggy. LOL, now you can pull the battery and put your motherboard in the dish washer.

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                  They also don't work underwater.

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                  Carrier salmon.

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                    These days the only thing that's remotely worth buying is a Pixel phone that's unlocked so you can get GrapheneOS.

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                      These days the only thing that's remotely worth buying is a Pixel phone that's unlocked so you can get GrapheneOS.

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                      or a fairphone so that disassembly, or even just taking out the battery is not a risky nightmare.

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                        These days the only thing that's remotely worth buying is a Pixel phone that's unlocked so you can get GrapheneOS.

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                        I'm not against graphene or pixel phones, but this is such a shortsighted take and this doesn't remotely answer the question.

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                          Nope. Never had a water-related incident with any cellphone in the 20ish years I've been using them. Just not relevant to my life.

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                            Nope. I haven't bought anything other than a Pixel since they were known as Nexus. Originally because they were cheap, but decent, then because they were easy to tinker with, and now because it's the only phone that runs Graphene OS. If I need to buy a new phone, I just look for whichever Pixel is cheapest, and that's my new phone.

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                              I won't have money to buy a water resistant phone anyways, so no.

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                                I won't have money to buy a water resistant phone anyways, so no.

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                                Eh, $300 phones now have IP67

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                                  People don't, but companies do.

                                  Company A might get a contract to do whatever thing for Company B and the contract says "all equipment brought on site by your team must be this or that or whatever IP Rating".

                                  It's an insurance / liability thing.

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                                    Nope, my current phone isn't even water resistant. It loses resistance over time anyways, so IDC.

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                                      Eh, $300 phones now have IP67

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                                      That's a lot of money.

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                                        That's a lot of money.

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                                        Boots theory of economics. I can't afford another phone if mine gets dunked in the toilet. Can't really live in a lot of places without a smartphone these days, so you're looking at a minimum of ~$100. You can find IP67 phones on sale for ~$210 if you take the time to look.

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                                          Boots theory of economics. I can't afford another phone if mine gets dunked in the toilet. Can't really live in a lot of places without a smartphone these days, so you're looking at a minimum of ~$100. You can find IP67 phones on sale for ~$210 if you take the time to look.

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                                          Not arguing about how cheap you can get IP phones or if it's a good idea. Just wanted to mention that 300$ is a lot of money for a lot of people. 210$ are as well and while it might make sene in the long run, people might still not be able tovafford it. If you can, go for it, but many can't.

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