Used Tesla prices tumble as embarrassed owners look to sell
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Tesla was a long way ahead of the competition for a very long time, to the point where they were the only option for a vehicle that was genuinely a replacement for a combustion vehicle.
Without them, I very much doubt EV market share would be anywhere near what it is today.
I'm not sure how it even managed to get so big when the EV1 was so beloved but supposedly killed by the automotive industry.
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I have read a number of comments from people with illnesses or other issues that are genetic, saying they don't want to pass their problems onto the next generation.
So, bizarrely enough, there is a certain amount of eugenics happening, it's just purely voluntary.
Kind of me, I have a genetic heart defect I don't intent to pass on. Though realistically, it was unlikely to happen in the first place.
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I love that comic, but it's unfortunately not applicable to this conversation. If anything, it's more applicable in response to @MellowYellow13.
This person is clearly being overly reactive to the situation and isn't listening to reason. By all means, don't buy a Tesla in the year of our lord 2025, but if you bought one in like 2019, that's kind of irrelevant. Those people shouldn't be punished for what they saw as an innocuous purchase at the time. To tell people they just straight up need to sell their car is asinine.
I'm not saying "omg you participate in society, you're just as bad", moreso pointing out how absolutely ridiculous @MellowYellow13 's platform here is. Things that have already been done are irrelevant, let's look to the future to improve things, no? If you've bought a Tesla in the past, it does not matter, just as if you've bought an iPhone, used Facebook, etc.
You completely missed my message.
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While it's nice to protest outside of the Tesla dealership, people should be protesting outside of US embassies, and while they are at it, protest outside of the Chinese and Russian embassies too. Block them in.
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im saying you can't really judge a non-expert for being the kind of shitty guy that was in vogue to be shitty at the time, especially if it's not a primary thing. nicola tesla doing a eugenics? yeah whatever. his approximate contemporary, margaret sanger, you can give a lot more shit on the topic, because she was a fucking doctor.
this doesn't just apply to history! as someone who has generally been on the right side of history, I have lived through this. several times. A current example, aside from the obvious nazi shit and transphobia, would be the whole push to equate large language models with "AI" and orient all of our society's productive capacity towards making them like we're a giant god damn paperclip machine. I can't give any lay person who was into the tech in 2023 too terribly much shit about it-but if you were in any sort of information science, math, IT, or neuro-anything, and you were in favor of how it was being pushed for more than five minutes, I will mock you mercilessly until the day one of us dies, and then if it was you, ill graffiti the mockery on your fucking grave.
how strongly was he in favor of eugenics? did he have any ability to push the needle? did he care emotionally, or was it just a quick glance 'yeah that sounds close enough and I trust the experts. anyway, back to stuff I actually care about' kind of opinion?
It's not about "judging," it's about not feeling sorry for Tesla's name being attached to a shitty eugenicist since he himself was a eugenicist
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I know this the unpopular opinion at the moment, but what electric sedan is better than a model 3? The rest of the producers have all decided we want to drive crossovers or boxes and simply cannot figure out how to make a frunk.
Lots of choice in Europe
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I'm excited for their hybrid conversion kits
Me too. I want to get another of the car I drove in high school and slap a hybrid kit in it
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Your weird attempts at gaslighting aren't working dude
Your weird attempt at labeling gaslighting sure as hell didn't work dude.
Even if you werent a Musk fanboy, Tesla cars have literally always been shit quality, this is well known. I remember videos from 2015 from brand new Teslas with massive cracks going down the length of the car.
But yeah Im gaslighting! Hahaha not the fucking Nazi madman scamming you all, what a joke.
Additionally, Tesla has and ALWAYS has been extremely anti-consumer and anti-repair, they do not give a fuck about you.
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No sympathy.
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Dude, relax, you’re fighting with people that agree with you that Elon is a Nazi piece of shit. If a bunch of people that agree with you, more or less, are downvoting you and saying that your anger on this one is misplaced, maybe it’s time to look inward.
Let people realize they made a mistake, jeez. That’s all this is. People made an uninformed decision, and are now realizing their mistake. You never made a mistake before? Jfc
Im chill as Bob Dylan on penicillin. I simply have zero tolerance for Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. It's cool people realize they made a mistake, but they are simply realizing the extreme costs of supporting a Nazi.
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I dont give af what happens. Defending people buying a car made by a Nazi madman is simply pathetic.
Glances nervously at Ford, Mitsubishi, VW, BMW...
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I was joking with some friends about doing exactly this. Schuck it down to just the battery and minimal drivetrain, and make a very heavy go-kart.
I know at least one YouTuber cutdown a salvage Plaid and put a Honda Odyssey minivan shell on it for drag racing.
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There are people who use tesla parts to make electric car conversions
RichRebuilds.
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Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it's time to jump ship
I hope byd buys them for pennies on the dollar and they keep people employed
But most importantly I hope it's for pennies on the thousands of dollars
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While it's nice to protest outside of the Tesla dealership, people should be protesting outside of US embassies, and while they are at it, protest outside of the Chinese and Russian embassies too. Block them in.
People are doing. But embassies tend to be in capital cities but Tesla dealerships are everywhere.
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I also remember the hero worship in 2015-20ish, even when projects like Hyperloop and countless others were a well known scam. I worked in top tech and their product team worshipped him, they hated me after I tried expressing skepticism. These people probably think he's nuts in 2025, but also say "that wasn't a Nazi salute, stop overreacting".
Yep.
Even going all the way back to paypal, Musk has been a piece of shit. a very obvious, public piece of shit.
Fanboys are in a panic and trying to change history and their blind support of him thanks to the nazism coming out full bore in a way that cant be dismissed/handwaved/excused
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So you've never done business with a company who's CEO is an asshole? Never bought gas, used Windows, googled something, gotten on Facebook?
I knew full well this guy was an asshole. So is pretty much every CEO in America. You can't opt out, you can only choose which asshole you want to do business with. The holier-than-thou bullshit because Musk is the asshole of the day helps no one. If you buy oil at all, you're funding an industry that has lobbied governments around the world to buy more oil for literal generations, all while knowing the harm it was causing and the people it was killing and would kill.
It's cool that you've picked the Nazi you hate over the ones that had the good sense to stay home, but it's childish at best to think that makes you a better person.
Thats some serious "you say we should improve society? yet you participate in society, Curious!" energy in that post right there.
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If I had one I'd keep it, vandalise it myself and turn it into an anti-musk advertising vehicle. It's a bad idea to waste the resources that went into making them.
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It's not about "judging," it's about not feeling sorry for Tesla's name being attached to a shitty eugenicist since he himself was a eugenicist
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If I were to drive one, I would never let such circumstances push me to sell.
