You'll never see them again
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Curious - do you feel a lot of reboots have missed the mark?
I'm starting to feel the opposite, where a lot of reboots are way better than the original.
In general I feel like reboots are lazy. There is a plethora of created and not-yet-created IP to choose from but producers continue to reboot the same franchises often ignoring established cannon in favor of “popcorn eating masses” appeal. Reboots frequently result in a generalization or dilution of the original plot with character traits dialed up to 11.
To answer your question more specifically; yes. Movies like ‘The Magnificent Seven’, franchises like Star Trek in the 90s, even shows like MASH or Buffy the Vampire Slayer (both based on films of the same name) showed that reboots don’t have to be in the same vein as their source content either by a change of genre, a change in timeframe, or even a change in medium. The best reboots have always brought their own new flavor to or take on the original material. But even doing that little means taking a risk and that doesn’t seem to be something producers are willing to do right now.
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Conversely
Producers find a new show idea that looks interesting and could be popular .....
Writers: yeah we got this idea that could be turned into an hour and a half hour long film ... it's very interesting, great plot dialogue, and there's a great twist
Producers, executives: Great idea! I love it! But it would give us more content if you could turn it into a series instead. Take the whole film and stretch it out across seven one hour episodes.
Writers: how?
Producers, executives: just cut it up into seven parts, slow everything down and make a dramatic cliff hanger at the end of every episode.
Also writers: We don’t give a shit about the source material the fans love. Fuck these nerds.
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the one thing i do appreciate is them dropping filler episodes
Oh no, filler is a good thing. Filler gives you time to know the characters, and adds depth and color to the world. Filler is where writers actually get to stretch and try out ideas. Filler is what makes a show feel full.
Imagine the X-Files with no filler. We'd lose the Jose Chung episodes, "Home," "the Post-Modern Prometheus," and so many other great episodes. Without the filler, it's just an endless slog through Chris Carter's poorly planned mythology. Just the smoking man and vanishing babies for
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Also TV now: This show/movie did well 40 years ago so we rebooted it with people who never saw it, a shitload of special effects, and totally missed why it was popular in the first place.
They did this a lot in the 90’s too. Production companies love to ground an IP into the dust.
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Oh no, filler is a good thing. Filler gives you time to know the characters, and adds depth and color to the world. Filler is where writers actually get to stretch and try out ideas. Filler is what makes a show feel full.
Imagine the X-Files with no filler. We'd lose the Jose Chung episodes, "Home," "the Post-Modern Prometheus," and so many other great episodes. Without the filler, it's just an endless slog through Chris Carter's poorly planned mythology. Just the smoking man and vanishing babies for
elevennine seasons.I think your opinion is by far the more popular view right now. I completely disagree though. Almost every mini-series I see I'm left dumbstruck as I feel like any decent editor could have gotten the same story across just as well with a 2 or 2.5h movie instead. I feel like they are just wasting my time.
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Oh no, filler is a good thing. Filler gives you time to know the characters, and adds depth and color to the world. Filler is where writers actually get to stretch and try out ideas. Filler is what makes a show feel full.
Imagine the X-Files with no filler. We'd lose the Jose Chung episodes, "Home," "the Post-Modern Prometheus," and so many other great episodes. Without the filler, it's just an endless slog through Chris Carter's poorly planned mythology. Just the smoking man and vanishing babies for
elevennine seasons.i mean i haven't rewatched xfiles since the 90s but isn't that more of a victim of being a transition between monster of the week episodic and season long story arcs?
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Curious - do you feel a lot of reboots have missed the mark?
I'm starting to feel the opposite, where a lot of reboots are way better than the original.
Nu Trek has been consistently awful.
only SNW has come close to anything that feels like the spirit of trek
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Also TV now:
Murder mystery.
"Comedy" that's all about murder mystery.
Depressing drama.
Drama about murder.
Murder comedy that's mostly just drama.
Documentary about murder.
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Curious - do you feel a lot of reboots have missed the mark?
I'm starting to feel the opposite, where a lot of reboots are way better than the original.
The 'Lost In Space" reboot was amazing. They took everything that was dumb in the original show and made it smart. Then they took the one really good thing [Dr. Smith] and made them fantastic.
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Also TV now: This show/movie did well 40 years ago so we rebooted it with people who never saw it, a shitload of special effects, and totally missed why it was popular in the first place.
NuTrek that you?
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Wait… what is going on here?!
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Wait… what is going on here?!
no one tell make them watch 10 seasons of stargate
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They make a lot of shows now that would never have been greenlit back when all shows had to be hits. It's possible to have a niche now.
Briefly, but it's possible.
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RIP KAOS
RIP Dennis
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Curious - do you feel a lot of reboots have missed the mark?
I'm starting to feel the opposite, where a lot of reboots are way better than the original.
I'm reserving my judgement until I see the reboot of the Munsters.
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Nu Trek has been consistently awful.
only SNW has come close to anything that feels like the spirit of trek
Orville best NuTrek.
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They did this a lot in the 90’s too. Production companies love to ground an IP into the dust.
That explains why I'm so familiar with boomer shows and movies, despite being a millennial. There was a lot of old content and remakes on TV then.
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Wait… what is going on here?!
(Sorry LousyCornMuffins, I can't help it)
There was an episode of Stargate SG-1 where...remember the paranoid dude who turned out to be an alien? Well he ends up working in Hollywood, and produces a TV show called Wormhole X-Treme, which is a parody of Stargate SG-1. This character then tries to pitch other shows which are pastiches of Sci-Fi shows, to include a very brief send-up of Farscape, especially relevant since Season 9 and 10 take on Ben Browder and Claudia Black, John Crichton and Aeryn Soun on Farscape respectively.
So we get T'ealc in a Luxan chin and Chiana Carter.
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the one thing i do appreciate is them dropping filler episodes
Except that one episode of Breaking Bad...
But then again, that show is over a decade old at this point.
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Briefly, but it's possible.
If it's on Netflix, don't expect them to finish the show.
