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Costco changed the bag to plastic!!

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  • carbonicedragon@pawb.socialC [email protected]

    Why? Tweaking the genes of something doesnt magically make it dangerous

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    It depends what they're tweaking and why. For example, a lot of stuff is tweaked to become "Roundup ready," and facilitating the mass use of glyphosate is dangerous.

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      About the time they got rid of the hard plastic cashew jars and switched to the bags, they also started selling a (more expensive) glass jar of cashews.

      So for me, it does cut down on the plastic, since now I just refill the glass jar with the bagged cashews, rather than needing to buy (and dispose of) the plastic jar every time.

      I might feel differently if I was actually reusing the plastic jars for something but I really wasn't (not after the first few, anyway).

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      Now if they would introduce a deposit on those jars and refill them...

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        It depends what they're tweaking and why. For example, a lot of stuff is tweaked to become "Roundup ready," and facilitating the mass use of glyphosate is dangerous.

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        Sure, but a crop merely being bioengineered does not imply that that specific tweak has been made

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          You're right: plastic is just as recyclable now as it was before.

          Which is to say, it continues to largely fail to be recyclable.

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          I think this was a joke

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            Was the bag actually paper before, or paper lined with plastic?

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            It was lined with plastic.

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              No. This is a myth perpetuated by huge companies who create a lot of single use plastic.

              There isn't a type of plastic in existence that can be recycled without degrading in quality. A plastic bottle cannot be used to create a new bottle. This is why less than 5% of plastic waste is actually recycled.

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              That’s just categorically false. Trash Panda Disc Golf does a video on just that myth. The problem with recycling has nothing to do with degradation. It has to do with economics. New plastic is cheap. Reusing plastic isn’t.

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                That's right folks! Costco, for whatever reason changed the tortilla strip chip bag from a perfectly recyclable bag to this piece of shit bag that you can't recycle.

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                Might be my imagination but I think Kirkland stuff has been declining in quality lately. The paper towels seem worse now, but I'm not sure how.

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                  About the time they got rid of the hard plastic cashew jars and switched to the bags, they also started selling a (more expensive) glass jar of cashews.

                  So for me, it does cut down on the plastic, since now I just refill the glass jar with the bagged cashews, rather than needing to buy (and dispose of) the plastic jar every time.

                  I might feel differently if I was actually reusing the plastic jars for something but I really wasn't (not after the first few, anyway).

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                  I totally re-use glass jars! It's a nice cleanable container.

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                    Look into it. Bioengineering is not scary, it's just a word the some media outlets fear monger

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                    Exactly. If your body can eat it, its done. Its just carbon.

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                      That’s just categorically false. Trash Panda Disc Golf does a video on just that myth. The problem with recycling has nothing to do with degradation. It has to do with economics. New plastic is cheap. Reusing plastic isn’t.

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                      Uh huh. I have also watched videos and read articles supporting what I just said. Scotch tape is a great example because it's so brittle... almost useless for any application other than temporarily taping paper to something. It shows how weak plastic gets when it's recycled.

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                        How many of those cubes is it reasonable for someone to have?

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                        If you are building something out of it like a raft, any number is fine.

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                          Into what? Scotch tape? 2 by 4's for decking material? One can only make so much of those things before the low demand is met.

                          Like I said, almost none of it gets recycled because the resulting products are too weak. Not only that, but plastic "recycling" is one of the primary ways that micro plastics get into our bodies.

                          https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/05/yet-another-problem-with-recycling-it-spews-microplastics/

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                          They should use it as filler for potholes. Fibers would composite into stronger flexible quieter roads....or sobI dare to guess.

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                            It was lined with plastic.

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                            It was paper lined with plastic....turtle choking bags of plastic coated paper. Probably using less plastic. Well not sure if it was plastic or some sort of PVA but it was mostly just paper.

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                              Uh huh. I have also watched videos and read articles supporting what I just said. Scotch tape is a great example because it's so brittle... almost useless for any application other than temporarily taping paper to something. It shows how weak plastic gets when it's recycled.

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                              Trash Panda isn’t an article, they’re a disc golf manufacturer that solely uses recycled plastic. They’ve tested with recycling the exact same plastic more than ten times. And I have no clue what you are talking about with scotch tape, it’s literally designed to be tearable, just like the Costco bag in the picture….

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                                The cubes, for 9/10 people, is single use plastic. That was actually a good change.

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                                This is also consistent with Reduce reuse recycle

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                                  Now if they would introduce a deposit on those jars and refill them...

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                                  Better yet, just get nut silos and have customers refill themselves. They seem to usually be near checkout anyway, so they could have someone monitor the area for abuse while telling people what lines aren't super full...

                                  It would cut down on the back and forth transportation of the containers, and clean refill labor, etc.

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                                    They should use it as filler for potholes. Fibers would composite into stronger flexible quieter roads....or sobI dare to guess.

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                                    I would think that could work from a structural point of view, but they would have to seal it somehow to prevent more microplastics from being created. Plastics aren't often used as a building material because of toxic off-gassing, but of course this would be outside which would mitigate the issue.

                                    Asphalt is one of the most recyclable materials in existence, when they tear up an asphalt road they just melt it down and pour it back on. If there was plastic involved it would probably interrupt this process.

                                    But I'm not expert. Maybe it would work.

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                                      I would think that could work from a structural point of view, but they would have to seal it somehow to prevent more microplastics from being created. Plastics aren't often used as a building material because of toxic off-gassing, but of course this would be outside which would mitigate the issue.

                                      Asphalt is one of the most recyclable materials in existence, when they tear up an asphalt road they just melt it down and pour it back on. If there was plastic involved it would probably interrupt this process.

                                      But I'm not expert. Maybe it would work.

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                                      Literally asphalt is junk plastic/petroleum. It dissolves or mixes with plastic at melting temp. Or even if there was no thermal action, the plastic in fiber form would just get incorporated into the melt.

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                                        Trash Panda isn’t an article, they’re a disc golf manufacturer that solely uses recycled plastic. They’ve tested with recycling the exact same plastic more than ten times. And I have no clue what you are talking about with scotch tape, it’s literally designed to be tearable, just like the Costco bag in the picture….

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                                        Okay, so this one frisbee company disputes the countless articles published with sources about how plastic degrades when it's recycled and... you expect me to just go with that instead of NPR articles.

                                        I doubt the demand for frisbees is high enough to be an encompassing solution for our plastic problem, but I like the idea.

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                                          You still can recycle plastic, therefore point made by the OP is false.

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                                          technically true. but some plastic products cost too much to recycle so they go into landfill.

                                          also some recycled plastics can't be recycled again because it's "impossible" to know what percentages of what other plastics were used in the final product. again, too costly to recycle.

                                          these are all primary examples of why using plastic as a packaging product are based entirely on marketing and manufacturing cost over environmental impacts.

                                          truth of the matter is, natural fibers like cotton and wood pulp(paper) plus biodegradable sealants like wax, vegetable oil, shellacs, etc are far better for the environment than any amount of "recyclable" plastic.

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