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And they even get a seizure when you take their ipads away

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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

    Good god this hits home

    Months ago I was visited by a relative who brought their eight year old. She's single and her boy is ever so slightly mentally not there. He's smart enough but just not there with everything. Plus the mother is not capable of looking after him. So many wrong things and I hate to judge anything about it .... both mother and son are having and will continue to have a hard life.

    As we talked, the son spent the entire time with their device looking at YouTube videos.

    At one point I wanted to try to make friends and asked him what he was watching .... he mumbled and ignored me. I looked over at his video and it was just a completely nonsensical animation of characters running around like in a video game ... I couldn't understand what was happening or why, the cartoon animals were just mumbling nonsense, laughing, running and flashing lights and constant cuts to new scene after new scene. I looked at the kid and he was two steps away from just drooling.

    I couldn't believe it and it scared me. This device was melting any amount of brain power the kid had.

    It made me think about myself and what the hell I was doing with my time.

    It made me think that the world is all doing the same thing to one degree or another. Some are better, since are terribly worse.

    It made me think that humanity is doomed.

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    Mechanisms of manipulation and control are getting more and more sophisticated and it's really fucking sad.

    Its like watching someone overdose. It sucks. And we don't have language about it, even shitty language, like we do for drugs, so it's hard to even talk to people about.

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      Meh, back in the days we'd watch youtubepoop videos and whatnot. Nonsense you like os funny, nonsense you don't is brainrot.

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      Meh, back in the days we'd watch youtubepoop videos

      Mofo how old are you, I am 33 and back in the day we didn't have youtube, we went out and played football.

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        This look is solely directed at the parents.

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        Not really, it's a kid, it should know that by using the Ipad it is destroying it's capability to pay attention in the future, not to mention using an Ipad, a product built in a Chinese factory with suicide nets, really the kid should feel ashamed for supporting such a business practice.

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          Not really, it's a kid, it should know that by using the Ipad it is destroying it's capability to pay attention in the future, not to mention using an Ipad, a product built in a Chinese factory with suicide nets, really the kid should feel ashamed for supporting such a business practice.

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          Yeah, time to start canceling toddlers!

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          • dmmacniel@feddit.orgD [email protected]

            Most often the iPad is not for the kids but for inattentive Parents that just want to doomscroll in peace and not deal with their offspring.

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            My colleague is real nice and all, but exactly why she gives iPad/phone to her toddler is exactly for the reason you mentioned. A lot of parents are lazy. And we wonder why the younger generation is turning right, because techno-fascists know how glued we are now to digital devices.

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              Meh, back in the days we'd watch youtubepoop videos

              Mofo how old are you, I am 33 and back in the day we didn't have youtube, we went out and played football.

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              Old enough to know I'm way into the B side of my cassette,sadly.

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                I'm not having kids, but this always feels like such a missed opportunity to let kids do something more mentally stimulating on that tablet.
                Drawing apps and eBooks are right there! Hell, set up Termux and Acode up for them and let them program a bit (or like, I bet there's a mobile version of Scratch they could use if they can't read yet). Let them take photos and make little collages. Get them some music Synthesizer App so that they can tinker on their own little beats. Literally just show them that they have the tools to make something great instead of just shoveling in mindless content all day..

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                • dmmacniel@feddit.orgD [email protected]

                  Most often the iPad is not for the kids but for inattentive Parents that just want to doomscroll in peace and not deal with their offspring.

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                  Parking them in front of YouTube kids isn't the right idea though.. The content they show is just ridiculous.

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                    Parking them in front of YouTube kids isn't the right idea though.. The content they show is just ridiculous.

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                    yes of course its not the right idea and right thing to do, we all know it in here.

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                      My colleague is real nice and all, but exactly why she gives iPad/phone to her toddler is exactly for the reason you mentioned. A lot of parents are lazy. And we wonder why the younger generation is turning right, because techno-fascists know how glued we are now to digital devices.

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                      and thats terribly sad.

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                        I'm not having kids, but this always feels like such a missed opportunity to let kids do something more mentally stimulating on that tablet.
                        Drawing apps and eBooks are right there! Hell, set up Termux and Acode up for them and let them program a bit (or like, I bet there's a mobile version of Scratch they could use if they can't read yet). Let them take photos and make little collages. Get them some music Synthesizer App so that they can tinker on their own little beats. Literally just show them that they have the tools to make something great instead of just shoveling in mindless content all day..

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                        Totally agree!

                        I see the problem more in the parents. First, that these kids can use the iPad so much and second, that they can just consume on it. Like you said: Create, build and explore. Use the iPad, not get used by the iPad.

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                        • dmmacniel@feddit.orgD [email protected]

                          Most often the iPad is not for the kids but for inattentive Parents that just want to doomscroll in peace and not deal with their offspring.

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                          I used to think exactly that and judge that heavily, but after my sister became a mother, we talked about this and she said essentially, that you don't know them, you don't know the day they've had and what they have done all day and what happened before. And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn't mean they are not doing super much before. Because everybody has a breaking point and you cannot be perfect, but you don't know the arguments or deals or time spent earlier, and sometimes it's necessary to also keep care of yourself and relax a bit when you're done.

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                          • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                            Good god this hits home

                            Months ago I was visited by a relative who brought their eight year old. She's single and her boy is ever so slightly mentally not there. He's smart enough but just not there with everything. Plus the mother is not capable of looking after him. So many wrong things and I hate to judge anything about it .... both mother and son are having and will continue to have a hard life.

                            As we talked, the son spent the entire time with their device looking at YouTube videos.

                            At one point I wanted to try to make friends and asked him what he was watching .... he mumbled and ignored me. I looked over at his video and it was just a completely nonsensical animation of characters running around like in a video game ... I couldn't understand what was happening or why, the cartoon animals were just mumbling nonsense, laughing, running and flashing lights and constant cuts to new scene after new scene. I looked at the kid and he was two steps away from just drooling.

                            I couldn't believe it and it scared me. This device was melting any amount of brain power the kid had.

                            It made me think about myself and what the hell I was doing with my time.

                            It made me think that the world is all doing the same thing to one degree or another. Some are better, since are terribly worse.

                            It made me think that humanity is doomed.

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                            I have friends with kids like that, and it’s scary. I’m obviously a fan of technology, but critical thinking might go down the drain if children spend all day in front of a screen at such a young age.

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                            • korne127@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                              I used to think exactly that and judge that heavily, but after my sister became a mother, we talked about this and she said essentially, that you don't know them, you don't know the day they've had and what they have done all day and what happened before. And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn't mean they are not doing super much before. Because everybody has a breaking point and you cannot be perfect, but you don't know the arguments or deals or time spent earlier, and sometimes it's necessary to also keep care of yourself and relax a bit when you're done.

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                              And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn’t mean they are not doing super much before.

                              mhm yes, because instant gratification is always a trait to foster...

                              I saw it in the development of my nephew that he gets so easily frustrated and also scared to break anything, because toys like the iPad are expensive as heck (and when its broken it can't give him any dopamine shots).

                              So we get highly temperamental kids that have super short attention spans. Hurrah for dumbification of your civilisation. Two hails for our corporate overlords!

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                                Parents use to say leave your toys at home. I guess parents need the virtual babysitter with them at all times.

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                                • dmmacniel@feddit.orgD [email protected]

                                  And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn’t mean they are not doing super much before.

                                  mhm yes, because instant gratification is always a trait to foster...

                                  I saw it in the development of my nephew that he gets so easily frustrated and also scared to break anything, because toys like the iPad are expensive as heck (and when its broken it can't give him any dopamine shots).

                                  So we get highly temperamental kids that have super short attention spans. Hurrah for dumbification of your civilisation. Two hails for our corporate overlords!

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                                  Congrats, you perfectly missed the point of the message you replied to.

                                  Maybe your nephew gets the iPad all the time and that messed up his frustration tolerance. Ok. You might have a closer inside to how he is parented. When you see someone outside with a kid on an iPad you cannot know these things about them. Whatever it looks like to you, you're judging strangers based on a one point observation.

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                                    Quantity is an important factor. A half hour a day of brainrot isn’t a big problem, constant brainrot during all your free time is going to impact your concentration abilities, your mental image of the world, your ability to build meaningful logical connections and so many other mental development elements.

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                                    Exactly. We gathered together around my friend’s monitor, and laughed at FreddyW videos for 10 minutes, the continued our board game / rpg session.

                                    Compare this to how some kids are watching mind numbing shit whole day on their personal screens. Very diffrent effect

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                                      Sometimes that iPad is there for you not the kids, try raising an autistic kid with unlimited energy, when you get them in a restaurant or bus, if the iPad is gonna keep him quiet and occupied, that means you don’t have to hear him complain.
                                      Kids aren’t robots, they’re people, and some have special needs and get overwhelmed in the fucked up world we made. If super kitties is gonna keep him relaxed for a bit so be it.

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                                      Thanks for this thoughtful and considerate response. As a parent myself, your kindness is so appreciated!

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                                        Congrats, you perfectly missed the point of the message you replied to.

                                        Maybe your nephew gets the iPad all the time and that messed up his frustration tolerance. Ok. You might have a closer inside to how he is parented. When you see someone outside with a kid on an iPad you cannot know these things about them. Whatever it looks like to you, you're judging strangers based on a one point observation.

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                                        It’s like they were telling they don’t have kids without telling they don’t have kids.

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                                        • korne127@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                          I used to think exactly that and judge that heavily, but after my sister became a mother, we talked about this and she said essentially, that you don't know them, you don't know the day they've had and what they have done all day and what happened before. And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn't mean they are not doing super much before. Because everybody has a breaking point and you cannot be perfect, but you don't know the arguments or deals or time spent earlier, and sometimes it's necessary to also keep care of yourself and relax a bit when you're done.

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                                          I had a similar change of perspective when I became a parent. We do our best to raise our kids to be the best people they can be. But, if we want to do normal people things and that requires some screen time, so be it. I know what’s going on with my kids and idgaf what others think.

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