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Is the United States of America over?

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  • ideonek@piefed.socialI [email protected]

    I don't consider your a Rule of Law country anymore.

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    I've lived here my whole life, and I've known that to be a lie since I was a teenager. Not a fun way to come of age, to be honest...

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      There are three ways this could end for America, arranged from best to worst for Americans: An overthrow of MAGA followed by progressive rule to fix the underlying causes of this mess, the disintegration of the Union into several medium-sized states and unimpeded MAGA rule in the United States. All of these can be preceded by civil war or all sorts of sociopolitical turmoil, but one of them will happen within the next five years tops. Also, since nothing I've seen these past few months convinced me that Americans are capable of taking the reigns of power back from the fascists, what we're really looking at is either complete disintegration or Nazi Germany. My point being: I don't know if America will survive, but you better hope it doesn't.

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      reigns

      Reins.

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        reigns

        Rains.

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          reigns

          Raynes.

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            There's an even worse possible outcome: A civil war that culminates in one side bringing out the nukes.

            Now, that one's rather unlikely but it still pretty much the worst possible option.

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              With the stark division between left/right (Democrats/Republicans, progressives/conservatives, whatever you want to call it) is the "United" States over? I might be pessimistic, but it seems that the disconnect between the citizens is too great to fix. I don't think I'm alone in thinking this, but what are other opinions?

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              the disconnect between the citizens is too great to fix.

              The citizens of both sides have yet to understand that their conflict is not their biggest problem.

              The conflict between the classes is much more severe.

              Once when this is out in the open, the end might happen. Until then, it is a kind of intermediate state: not the former united states anymore, but no new thing either.

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                With the stark division between left/right (Democrats/Republicans, progressives/conservatives, whatever you want to call it) is the "United" States over? I might be pessimistic, but it seems that the disconnect between the citizens is too great to fix. I don't think I'm alone in thinking this, but what are other opinions?

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                It's over when it's over. Not yet imo

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                  reigns

                  Ranes.

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                    With the stark division between left/right (Democrats/Republicans, progressives/conservatives, whatever you want to call it) is the "United" States over? I might be pessimistic, but it seems that the disconnect between the citizens is too great to fix. I don't think I'm alone in thinking this, but what are other opinions?

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                    Capitalist democracies all over the Westernised world are transforming. I don't say collapsing, but transforming. We've all been force fed a steady diet of fake freedoms, culture wars and bullshit nationalism pretty much since the end of WW2 to spread uncertainty and fear. It's all coming to a head now because populations are panicking (by design) and turning to fascist 'strong man' populist leaders like Trump, Farage, Meloni, Orban etc who are all financed and propped up by our next set of leaders - the billionaire's who will operate a worldwide network of oligarchical fascism, whilst the herd are all distracted by manufactured outrage at trans people existing and what an actors politics are and how the immigrants are simultaneously taking all the jobs and draining us dry on the dole.

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                      the disconnect between the citizens is too great to fix.

                      The citizens of both sides have yet to understand that their conflict is not their biggest problem.

                      The conflict between the classes is much more severe.

                      Once when this is out in the open, the end might happen. Until then, it is a kind of intermediate state: not the former united states anymore, but no new thing either.

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                      yeah...I'm never accepting someone who can support a convicted rapist and suspected child rapist.

                      fuck everyone who supports that bag of shit.

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