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  • U [email protected]

    ...you are arguing that solving the person's issue is irrelevant.

    Irrelevant to proving. Context.

    ...then I'm sure you'll be able to prove that by solving...

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    [email protected]
    wrote on last edited by [email protected]
    #36

    See, this is how a stubborn insecure person acts.

    You, just now:

    You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

    I do. It works.

    You, 3 months ago:

    I have firsthand experience with videogames made for one flavor of Linux not working on my machine due to dependency hell.

    You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

    You get stuck in dependency hell because all the supporting software that is required for modern gaming... is a large mismatch, by default os config, with what is actually compatible with and developed for non systemd systems, and it requires a massive amount of effort to get anything into a reasonably stable and reasonably working state.

    I ask you to provide your experience directly, which could genuienly help this person, and you instead want to nitpick vocabulary in a sophomoric manner so that you can feel you are more correct by virtue of 'well, ackshually'....

    ...and your approach to trying to solve the problem is robotic, run through standard error output log, identify error... theorize solution...

    ... even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

    In conclusion; boy, you must be great at parties.

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    • U [email protected]

      I would look at the proton log of a game that doesn't work.

      How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

      Proton will create a log file for a particular game, if you set the launch parameter to:

      PROTON_LOG=1 %command%
      

      The log file will be created in your home folder with the name scheme steam-$STEAMID.log. For example:

      $HOME/steam-379720.log
      
      hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
      hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote on last edited by
      #37

      Ok. I've cleaned that machine, but don't install there something yet 🤔. I'll try...

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      • S [email protected]

        See, this is how a stubborn insecure person acts.

        You, just now:

        You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

        I do. It works.

        You, 3 months ago:

        I have firsthand experience with videogames made for one flavor of Linux not working on my machine due to dependency hell.

        You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

        You get stuck in dependency hell because all the supporting software that is required for modern gaming... is a large mismatch, by default os config, with what is actually compatible with and developed for non systemd systems, and it requires a massive amount of effort to get anything into a reasonably stable and reasonably working state.

        I ask you to provide your experience directly, which could genuienly help this person, and you instead want to nitpick vocabulary in a sophomoric manner so that you can feel you are more correct by virtue of 'well, ackshually'....

        ...and your approach to trying to solve the problem is robotic, run through standard error output log, identify error... theorize solution...

        ... even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

        In conclusion; boy, you must be great at parties.

        U This user is from outside of this forum
        U This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote on last edited by
        #38

        You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

        Sorry, but that issue had nothing to do with systemd.

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        • U [email protected]

          I would look at the proton log of a game that doesn't work.

          How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

          Proton will create a log file for a particular game, if you set the launch parameter to:

          PROTON_LOG=1 %command%
          

          The log file will be created in your home folder with the name scheme steam-$STEAMID.log. For example:

          $HOME/steam-379720.log
          
          hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
          hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote on last edited by
          #39

          It takes about 30 minutes...

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          • hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH [email protected]

            comes with apps gamers commonly use

            What are these apps? Because I don't use Discord or other "not-privacy"-friendly apps. I use only Steam of these 😅. Because from Steam I only plays in FA with my friend. For communication - I use Mumble for example.

            it basically has a bunch of built in safety mechanisms to make it much more difficult to break the OS

            Is this actually Linux? 🤔

            please remember to make a backup copy of all your personal files on a seperate harddrive before you make the switch

            It's too late 🙃

            Personally, I am doubtful they will be able to, but I do not know everything, and I could be wrong, perhaps there is some fairly straightforward fix.

            I also already doubt this 😟. And I've already cleaned that machine.

            S This user is from outside of this forum
            S This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote on last edited by [email protected]
            #40

            https://docs.bazzite.gg/

            What are these apps?

            Well, you have things like EmuDeck, for emulating console games,

            Lutris, for an alternative, non Steam way to run games via WINE or Proton,

            Protontricks to help manage and configure WINE and Proton...

            A whole bunch of other stuff that may or may not interest you.

            Is this actually Linux?

            Yes, it is, it is built off of the Fedora Atomic model.

            So... the simple explanation is that the core operating system is read-only, unalterable, in most situations.

            The core libraries of the OS are managed by the developers, who make the 'recipe' of all the core stuff, and update it and occasionally add to it... the user can override this and add in new core libraries, but it is highly advised against, and the terminal will yell at you that you are probably doing something stupid when you try.

            That being said, if you do mess up the core libraries... you can use

            rpm-ostree rollback

            And that will revert you to the last, stable, bootable configuration, which it automatically keeps backups of, locally.

            Then, almost all applications and software are run through flatpak, which keeps them self-contained, so if they break, it is only them that break, not your whole system.

            If you want to do something that requires more control over a linux in a tradtional linux sense... Bazzite comes with DistroBox, which basically allows you to have multiple linux oss download their own libraries in their own box, and then you can do more advanced tinkering in there.

            (technically it is quite complicated, as i understsnd it, distrobox is basically ... customized, fancy docker images, if you are familiar with docker)

            It's too late 🙃

            sigh

            I tried.

            I tried to warn you!

            I also already doubt this 😟. And I've already cleaned that machine.

            Welp.

            No turning back.

            It looks like you are prepared to go all the way.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI&t=152s

            lol

            I.. I hope you do already know how to... flash an iso to a usb drive, and that you have not just wiped out your only means of downloading said iso.

            Good luck!

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            • S [email protected]

              See, this is how a stubborn insecure person acts.

              You, just now:

              You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

              I do. It works.

              You, 3 months ago:

              I have firsthand experience with videogames made for one flavor of Linux not working on my machine due to dependency hell.

              You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

              You get stuck in dependency hell because all the supporting software that is required for modern gaming... is a large mismatch, by default os config, with what is actually compatible with and developed for non systemd systems, and it requires a massive amount of effort to get anything into a reasonably stable and reasonably working state.

              I ask you to provide your experience directly, which could genuienly help this person, and you instead want to nitpick vocabulary in a sophomoric manner so that you can feel you are more correct by virtue of 'well, ackshually'....

              ...and your approach to trying to solve the problem is robotic, run through standard error output log, identify error... theorize solution...

              ... even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

              In conclusion; boy, you must be great at parties.

              hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
              hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote on last edited by [email protected]
              #41

              … even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

              I know. But I want to solve this. It will gave me some experience in Linux Administration.

              In conclusion; boy, you must be great at parties.

              Thanks... So I don't visits parties, and I don't sees any sense in this.

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              • S [email protected]

                See, this is how a stubborn insecure person acts.

                You, just now:

                You ever tried gaming on a non systemd OS?

                I do. It works.

                You, 3 months ago:

                I have firsthand experience with videogames made for one flavor of Linux not working on my machine due to dependency hell.

                You know exactly the problem I am describing that comes along with trying to game on a non systemd OS, because you have experienced it yourself.

                You get stuck in dependency hell because all the supporting software that is required for modern gaming... is a large mismatch, by default os config, with what is actually compatible with and developed for non systemd systems, and it requires a massive amount of effort to get anything into a reasonably stable and reasonably working state.

                I ask you to provide your experience directly, which could genuienly help this person, and you instead want to nitpick vocabulary in a sophomoric manner so that you can feel you are more correct by virtue of 'well, ackshually'....

                ...and your approach to trying to solve the problem is robotic, run through standard error output log, identify error... theorize solution...

                ... even though you personally know that approach will be very time consuming and frustrating.

                In conclusion; boy, you must be great at parties.

                hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote on last edited by
                #42

                But if we get a fiasco - I'll try PikaOS.

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                • S [email protected]

                  https://docs.bazzite.gg/

                  What are these apps?

                  Well, you have things like EmuDeck, for emulating console games,

                  Lutris, for an alternative, non Steam way to run games via WINE or Proton,

                  Protontricks to help manage and configure WINE and Proton...

                  A whole bunch of other stuff that may or may not interest you.

                  Is this actually Linux?

                  Yes, it is, it is built off of the Fedora Atomic model.

                  So... the simple explanation is that the core operating system is read-only, unalterable, in most situations.

                  The core libraries of the OS are managed by the developers, who make the 'recipe' of all the core stuff, and update it and occasionally add to it... the user can override this and add in new core libraries, but it is highly advised against, and the terminal will yell at you that you are probably doing something stupid when you try.

                  That being said, if you do mess up the core libraries... you can use

                  rpm-ostree rollback

                  And that will revert you to the last, stable, bootable configuration, which it automatically keeps backups of, locally.

                  Then, almost all applications and software are run through flatpak, which keeps them self-contained, so if they break, it is only them that break, not your whole system.

                  If you want to do something that requires more control over a linux in a tradtional linux sense... Bazzite comes with DistroBox, which basically allows you to have multiple linux oss download their own libraries in their own box, and then you can do more advanced tinkering in there.

                  (technically it is quite complicated, as i understsnd it, distrobox is basically ... customized, fancy docker images, if you are familiar with docker)

                  It's too late 🙃

                  sigh

                  I tried.

                  I tried to warn you!

                  I also already doubt this 😟. And I've already cleaned that machine.

                  Welp.

                  No turning back.

                  It looks like you are prepared to go all the way.

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI&t=152s

                  lol

                  I.. I hope you do already know how to... flash an iso to a usb drive, and that you have not just wiped out your only means of downloading said iso.

                  Good luck!

                  hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote on last edited by [email protected]
                  #43

                  I tried to warn you!

                  Yeap! It's so)

                  I… I hope you do already know how to… flash an iso to a usb drive, and that you have not just wiped out your only means of downloading said iso.

                  Yeap! I almost an advanced user 🙃. I reinstall an OS on my PC about 9.999.999.999 times... (maybe a little bit less)

                  But I want to try firstly that here's someone can hint me 😉

                  Yes, it is, it is built off of the Fedora Atomic model.

                  So… the simple explanation is that the core operating system is read-only, unalterable, in most situations.

                  The core libraries of the OS are managed by the developers, who make the ‘recipe’ of all the core stuff, and update it and occasionally add to it… the user can override this and add in new core libraries, but it is highly advised against, and the terminal will yell at you that you are probably doing something stupid when you try.

                  That being said, if you do mess up the core libraries… you can use

                  rpm-ostree rollback

                  And that will revert you to the last, stable, bootable configuration, which it automatically keeps backups of, locally.

                  Then, almost all applications and software are run through flatpak, which keeps them self-contained, so if they break, it is only them that break, not your whole system.

                  If you want to do something that requires more control over a linux in a tradtional linux sense… Bazzite comes with DistroBox, which basically allows you to have multiple linux oss download their own libraries in their own box, and then you can do more advanced tinkering in there.

                  (technically it is quite complicated, as i understsnd it, distrobox is basically … customized, fancy docker images, if you are familiar with docker)

                  It seems that it is the most user-friendly distribution. But there's so many proprietary softs as I guess 🤔

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                  • U [email protected]

                    I would look at the proton log of a game that doesn't work.

                    How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

                    Proton will create a log file for a particular game, if you set the launch parameter to:

                    PROTON_LOG=1 %command%
                    

                    The log file will be created in your home folder with the name scheme steam-$STEAMID.log. For example:

                    $HOME/steam-379720.log
                    
                    hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                    hungrylemon@lemmings.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #44

                    Here's the begin of the log:

                    Proton: 1731350438 proton-8.0-5d
                    SteamGameId: 2009720
                    Command: ['/mnt/Games/Steam/steamapps/common/Mega Serval/megaServal.exe']
                    Options: {'forcelgadd'}
                    depot: 3.0.20250408.124536
                    pressure-vessel: 0.20250408.0 scout
                    scripts: 0.20250408.0
                    sniper: 3.0.20250408.124536 sniper 3.0.20250408.124536
                    Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-35-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.137-1 (2025-05-07) x86_64
                    Language: LC_ALL None, LC_MESSAGES None, LC_CTYPE None
                    Effective WINEDEBUG: +timestamp,+pid,+tid,+seh,+unwind,+threadname,+debugstr,+loaddll,+mscoree
                    ======================
                    fsync: up and running.
                    wine: RLIMIT_NICE is <= 20, unable to use setpriority safely
                    1048.198:0028:002c:trace:seh:install_bpf Installing seccomp filters.
                    1048.198:0028:002c:trace:seh:check_bpf_jit_enable enabled 0x31.
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                    1048.208:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
                    1048.209:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll" at 000000007B600000: builtin
                    1048.223:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll" at 0000000228280000: builtin
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                    1048.230:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
                    1048.234:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ws2_32.dll" at 0000000370F70000: builtin
                    1048.426:0030:0034:trace:seh:sigsys_handler SIGSYS, rax 0xffff, rip 0x600000000005.
                    1048.426:0030:0034:trace:seh:install_bpf Seccomp filters already installed.
                    1048.427:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\services.exe" at 0000000140000000: builtin
                    1048.433:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
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                    1048.448:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll" at 00000001EAF60000: builtin
                    1048.448:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
                    1048.451:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcrt4.dll" at 0000000368420000: builtin
                    1048.458:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\version.dll" at 000000025DC30000: builtin
                    1048.458:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\setupapi.dll" at 000000036D860000: builtin
                    1048.461:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\userenv.dll" at 0000000244FC0000: builtin
                    1048.510:0030:0038:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_rpcrt4_server"
                    1048.654:003c:0040:trace:seh:sigsys_handler SIGSYS, rax 0xffff, rip 0x600000000005.
                    1048.654:003c:0040:trace:seh:install_bpf Seccomp filters already installed.
                    1048.655:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe" at 0000000140000000: builtin
                    1048.660:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
                    1048.660:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll" at 000000007B600000: builtin
                    1048.668:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll" at 0000000228280000: builtin
                    1048.674:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ucrtbase.dll" at 00000002C7470000: builtin
                    1048.674:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll" at 00000001EAF60000: builtin
                    1048.674:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
                    1048.676:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe" at 000000031CA90000: builtin
                    1048.720:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcrt4.dll" at 0000000368420000: builtin
                    1048.722:0030:0044:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_rpcrt4_io"
                    1048.723:0030:0048:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                    1048.726:003c:0050:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_sechost_service"
                    1048.734:003c:004c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\mountmgr.sys" at 00000003BE830000: builtin
                    1048.761:003c:004c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\version.dll" at 000000025DC30000: builtin
                    1048.762:003c:004c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\setupapi.dll" at 000000036D860000: builtin
                    1048.947:0060:0064:trace:seh:sigsys_handler SIGSYS, rax 0xffff, rip 0x600000000005.
                    1048.947:0060:0064:trace:seh:install_bpf Seccomp filters already installed.
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                    1050.025:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\imm32.dll" at 0000000393730000: builtin
                    1050.027:0060:006c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception code=6ba flags=0 addr=000000007B00CDB7 ip=7b00cdb7
                    1050.028:0060:006c:warn:seh:dispatch_exception unknown exception (code=6ba) raised
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception  rax=0000000000b2d800 rbx=0000000000b2dae8 rcx=0000000000b2d800 rdx=0000000000000000
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception  rsi=00000000000000cc rdi=00000000008f3e40 rbp=0000000000b2d8d0 rsp=0000000000b2d7e0
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception   r8=0000000000000000  r9=0000000000000000 r10=00000000008f4160 r11=0000000000000014
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception  r12=0000000000b2dae8 r13=0000000000f3c750 r14=0000000000f3c750 r15=00000000000000b8
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:call_vectored_handlers calling handler at 000000031CAB5D90 code=6ba flags=0
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:call_vectored_handlers handler at 000000031CAB5D90 returned 0
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:RtlVirtualUnwind type 1 rip 7b00cdb7 rsp b2d7e0
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:dump_unwind_info **** func cd48-cdbf
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:dump_unwind_info unwind info at 000000007B0AD730 flags 0 prolog 0xf bytes function 000000007B00CD48-000000007B00CDBF
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:dump_unwind_info     0xf: subq $0xc8,%rsp
                    1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:RtlVi
                    
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                      I would look at the proton log of a game that doesn't work.

                      How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

                      Proton will create a log file for a particular game, if you set the launch parameter to:

                      PROTON_LOG=1 %command%
                      

                      The log file will be created in your home folder with the name scheme steam-$STEAMID.log. For example:

                      $HOME/steam-379720.log
                      
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                      And the end of the log:

                      Modules:
                      Module	Address			Debug info	Name (23 modules)
                      PE	00400000-00a8a000	Export          megaserval
                      PE	7b000000-7b2a0000	Deferred        kernelbase
                      PE	7b600000-7b65f000	Deferred        kernel32
                      PE	7bc00000-7bcaa000	Export          ntdll
                      ELF	7d000000-7d005000	Deferred        <wine-loader>
                      ELF	7e9ff000-7eb86000	Export          libwine.so.1
                      ELF	f62ea000-f63d7000	Deferred        ntdll.so
                      ELF	f78e7000-f78f6000	Deferred        libmd.so.0
                      ELF	f78f6000-f790d000	Deferred        libbsd.so.0
                      ELF	f790d000-f7914000	Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
                      ELF	f7914000-f7919000	Deferred        libxau.so.6
                      ELF	f7919000-f7947000	Deferred        libxcb.so.1
                      ELF	f7947000-f7a99000	Deferred        libx11.so.6
                      ELF	f7a99000-f7ad5000	Deferred        libglx.so.0
                      ELF	f7ad5000-f7b51000	Deferred        libgldispatch.so.0
                      ELF	f7b51000-f7c56000	Deferred        libm.so.6
                      ELF	f7c58000-f7cc4000	Deferred        libgl.so.1
                      ELF	f7cc4000-f7cc9000	Deferred        librt.so.1
                      ELF	f7cc9000-f7ef1000	Deferred        libc.so.6
                      ELF	f7ef1000-f7ef6000	Deferred        libdl.so.2
                      ELF	f7ef6000-f7efb000	Deferred        libpthread.so.0
                      ELF	f7f07000-f7f99000	Deferred        gameoverlayrenderer.so
                      ELF	f7f9b000-f7fd0000	Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
                      Threads:
                      process  tid      prio    name (all IDs are in hex)
                      00000020 steam.exe
                      	00000024    0     
                      	00000118    0     
                      	00000130    0     
                      00000030 services.exe
                      	00000034    0     
                      	00000038    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                      	00000044    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	00000048    0     wine_threadpool_worker
                      	00000068    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	00000074    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	00000098    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	000000b0    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	000000c4    0     
                      	000000e4    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	000000e8    0     wine_threadpool_worker
                      0000003c winedevice.exe
                      	00000040    0     
                      	0000004c    0     
                      	00000050    0     wine_sechost_service
                      	00000054    0     
                      	00000058    0     
                      	0000005c    0     
                      	000000bc    0     
                      	000000c0    0     
                      00000060 winedevice.exe
                      	00000064    0     
                      	0000006c    0     
                      	00000070    0     wine_sechost_service
                      	00000078    0     
                      	0000007c    0     
                      	00000080    0     
                      	00000084    0     
                      	0000008c    0     
                      00000090 plugplay.exe
                      	00000094    0     
                      	0000009c    0     
                      	000000a0    0     wine_sechost_service
                      	000000a4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                      000000a8 svchost.exe
                      	000000ac    0     
                      	000000b4    0     
                      	000000b8    0     wine_sechost_service
                      000000c8 explorer.exe
                      	000000cc    0     
                      	000000d0    0     
                      	000000d4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                      000000dc rpcss.exe
                      	000000e0    0     
                      	000000ec    0     
                      	000000f0    0     wine_sechost_service
                      	000000f4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                      	000000f8    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                      	000000fc    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                      	00000100    0     wine_threadpool_worker
                      00000104 tabtip.exe
                      	00000108    0     
                      	00000110    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                      	00000114    0     
                      	0000011c    0     
                      00000128 (D) Z:\mnt\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Mega Serval\megaServal.exe
                      	0000012c    0 <== 
                      	00000144    0     
                      0000013c conhost.exe
                      	00000140    0     
                      System information:
                          Wine build: wine-8.0
                          Platform: i386 (WOW64)
                          Version: Windows 10
                          Host system: Linux
                          Host version: 6.1.0-35-amd64
                      1057.067:0030:0148:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                      1057.067:0030:014c:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                      1057.068:0030:0150:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                      pid 15809 != 15808, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
                      

                      It doesn't seems that the problem in SystemD 🤔. Maybe...

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                        https://docs.bazzite.gg/

                        What are these apps?

                        Well, you have things like EmuDeck, for emulating console games,

                        Lutris, for an alternative, non Steam way to run games via WINE or Proton,

                        Protontricks to help manage and configure WINE and Proton...

                        A whole bunch of other stuff that may or may not interest you.

                        Is this actually Linux?

                        Yes, it is, it is built off of the Fedora Atomic model.

                        So... the simple explanation is that the core operating system is read-only, unalterable, in most situations.

                        The core libraries of the OS are managed by the developers, who make the 'recipe' of all the core stuff, and update it and occasionally add to it... the user can override this and add in new core libraries, but it is highly advised against, and the terminal will yell at you that you are probably doing something stupid when you try.

                        That being said, if you do mess up the core libraries... you can use

                        rpm-ostree rollback

                        And that will revert you to the last, stable, bootable configuration, which it automatically keeps backups of, locally.

                        Then, almost all applications and software are run through flatpak, which keeps them self-contained, so if they break, it is only them that break, not your whole system.

                        If you want to do something that requires more control over a linux in a tradtional linux sense... Bazzite comes with DistroBox, which basically allows you to have multiple linux oss download their own libraries in their own box, and then you can do more advanced tinkering in there.

                        (technically it is quite complicated, as i understsnd it, distrobox is basically ... customized, fancy docker images, if you are familiar with docker)

                        It's too late 🙃

                        sigh

                        I tried.

                        I tried to warn you!

                        I also already doubt this 😟. And I've already cleaned that machine.

                        Welp.

                        No turning back.

                        It looks like you are prepared to go all the way.

                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI&t=152s

                        lol

                        I.. I hope you do already know how to... flash an iso to a usb drive, and that you have not just wiped out your only means of downloading said iso.

                        Good luck!

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                        As I know - Red Hat developed SystemD? Fedora - is Red Hat, Bazzite - is Fedora?

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                          And the end of the log:

                          Modules:
                          Module	Address			Debug info	Name (23 modules)
                          PE	00400000-00a8a000	Export          megaserval
                          PE	7b000000-7b2a0000	Deferred        kernelbase
                          PE	7b600000-7b65f000	Deferred        kernel32
                          PE	7bc00000-7bcaa000	Export          ntdll
                          ELF	7d000000-7d005000	Deferred        <wine-loader>
                          ELF	7e9ff000-7eb86000	Export          libwine.so.1
                          ELF	f62ea000-f63d7000	Deferred        ntdll.so
                          ELF	f78e7000-f78f6000	Deferred        libmd.so.0
                          ELF	f78f6000-f790d000	Deferred        libbsd.so.0
                          ELF	f790d000-f7914000	Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
                          ELF	f7914000-f7919000	Deferred        libxau.so.6
                          ELF	f7919000-f7947000	Deferred        libxcb.so.1
                          ELF	f7947000-f7a99000	Deferred        libx11.so.6
                          ELF	f7a99000-f7ad5000	Deferred        libglx.so.0
                          ELF	f7ad5000-f7b51000	Deferred        libgldispatch.so.0
                          ELF	f7b51000-f7c56000	Deferred        libm.so.6
                          ELF	f7c58000-f7cc4000	Deferred        libgl.so.1
                          ELF	f7cc4000-f7cc9000	Deferred        librt.so.1
                          ELF	f7cc9000-f7ef1000	Deferred        libc.so.6
                          ELF	f7ef1000-f7ef6000	Deferred        libdl.so.2
                          ELF	f7ef6000-f7efb000	Deferred        libpthread.so.0
                          ELF	f7f07000-f7f99000	Deferred        gameoverlayrenderer.so
                          ELF	f7f9b000-f7fd0000	Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
                          Threads:
                          process  tid      prio    name (all IDs are in hex)
                          00000020 steam.exe
                          	00000024    0     
                          	00000118    0     
                          	00000130    0     
                          00000030 services.exe
                          	00000034    0     
                          	00000038    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                          	00000044    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	00000048    0     wine_threadpool_worker
                          	00000068    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	00000074    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	00000098    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	000000b0    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	000000c4    0     
                          	000000e4    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	000000e8    0     wine_threadpool_worker
                          0000003c winedevice.exe
                          	00000040    0     
                          	0000004c    0     
                          	00000050    0     wine_sechost_service
                          	00000054    0     
                          	00000058    0     
                          	0000005c    0     
                          	000000bc    0     
                          	000000c0    0     
                          00000060 winedevice.exe
                          	00000064    0     
                          	0000006c    0     
                          	00000070    0     wine_sechost_service
                          	00000078    0     
                          	0000007c    0     
                          	00000080    0     
                          	00000084    0     
                          	0000008c    0     
                          00000090 plugplay.exe
                          	00000094    0     
                          	0000009c    0     
                          	000000a0    0     wine_sechost_service
                          	000000a4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                          000000a8 svchost.exe
                          	000000ac    0     
                          	000000b4    0     
                          	000000b8    0     wine_sechost_service
                          000000c8 explorer.exe
                          	000000cc    0     
                          	000000d0    0     
                          	000000d4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                          000000dc rpcss.exe
                          	000000e0    0     
                          	000000ec    0     
                          	000000f0    0     wine_sechost_service
                          	000000f4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                          	000000f8    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                          	000000fc    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
                          	00000100    0     wine_threadpool_worker
                          00000104 tabtip.exe
                          	00000108    0     
                          	00000110    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
                          	00000114    0     
                          	0000011c    0     
                          00000128 (D) Z:\mnt\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Mega Serval\megaServal.exe
                          	0000012c    0 <== 
                          	00000144    0     
                          0000013c conhost.exe
                          	00000140    0     
                          System information:
                              Wine build: wine-8.0
                              Platform: i386 (WOW64)
                              Version: Windows 10
                              Host system: Linux
                              Host version: 6.1.0-35-amd64
                          1057.067:0030:0148:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                          1057.067:0030:014c:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                          1057.068:0030:0150:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
                          pid 15809 != 15808, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
                          

                          It doesn't seems that the problem in SystemD 🤔. Maybe...

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                          Take the whole log and put it a pastebin like pastebin.com. Then reply with the link.

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                            Take the whole log and put it a pastebin like pastebin.com. Then reply with the link.

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                            Can I use PrivateBin instead?

                            https://0.jaegers.net/?56551c15509bb58b#WwJnXzAmbJfk767Ac5NDykBUJndRG6nuoMmSu6ZxU1X

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                              Can I use PrivateBin instead?

                              https://0.jaegers.net/?56551c15509bb58b#WwJnXzAmbJfk767Ac5NDykBUJndRG6nuoMmSu6ZxU1X

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                              Try different versions of proton. Also try changing the version of steam to the flatpak version, or to the native version if you are already using flatpak.

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                                As I know - Red Hat developed SystemD? Fedora - is Red Hat, Bazzite - is Fedora?

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                                I... think SystemD has been around for quite a while, I am not sure who developed it originally.

                                20+ years ago, Fedora emerged out of Red Hat EnterpriseLinux, basically as the not business oriented, general use version of Red Hat.

                                The details are complicated, but by now, Fedora has advanced so much that RHEL is actually based off of Fedora; they use the more mature parts of Fedora that have proved to be very stable.

                                Bazzite is based off of Fedora, specifally the system Fedora uses for Atomic versions of Fedora. Like I tried to describe earlier, the Atomic variants of Fedora take a different approach and try to section off the core OS, keep it safer and more stable, and provide different kinds of containers or boxes for the user to run apps in, or experiment around in.

                                Bazzite is not officially a Fedora Atomic distro, made by the Fedora project... but their whole Atomic system is open source, so the Bazzite team uses it as a basis for their even more gaming focused OS.

                                Sort of similar to how PikaOS or Devuan or Ubuntu or PopOS! are based off of Debian... or the modern SteamOS that steam deck's natively run on is based off of Arch.

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                                  I... think SystemD has been around for quite a while, I am not sure who developed it originally.

                                  20+ years ago, Fedora emerged out of Red Hat EnterpriseLinux, basically as the not business oriented, general use version of Red Hat.

                                  The details are complicated, but by now, Fedora has advanced so much that RHEL is actually based off of Fedora; they use the more mature parts of Fedora that have proved to be very stable.

                                  Bazzite is based off of Fedora, specifally the system Fedora uses for Atomic versions of Fedora. Like I tried to describe earlier, the Atomic variants of Fedora take a different approach and try to section off the core OS, keep it safer and more stable, and provide different kinds of containers or boxes for the user to run apps in, or experiment around in.

                                  Bazzite is not officially a Fedora Atomic distro, made by the Fedora project... but their whole Atomic system is open source, so the Bazzite team uses it as a basis for their even more gaming focused OS.

                                  Sort of similar to how PikaOS or Devuan or Ubuntu or PopOS! are based off of Debian... or the modern SteamOS that steam deck's natively run on is based off of Arch.

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                                  Ok. I'll know 🤔

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                                    Try different versions of proton. Also try changing the version of steam to the flatpak version, or to the native version if you are already using flatpak.

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                                    So... The version from Flatpak (https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.Steam) is not official?

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                                      So... The version from Flatpak (https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.Steam) is not official?

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                                      There's Unverified label...

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                                        Probably not the issue, but is there a reason you're using such an old version of proton? Proton 10 is available in beta and proton 9 has been a smooth experience for most.

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                                        Now I've try Proton-GE 9-27 that I installed by ProtonUp-Qt. But it also gave me the same 😟

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                                          Now I've try Proton-GE 9-27 that I installed by ProtonUp-Qt. But it also gave me the same 😟

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                                          Are you recieving any error messages? Do you have logging enabled? (If you add "PROTON_LOG=1 %command%" to your launch options you can enable logging, they're stored in /var/log/ and will be called [steamid].log

                                          Enabling logging can tell you WHY things are breaking.

                                          My personal theory, because it seems to happen a lot, is the libraries that should be linked automatically aren't loading and proton doesn't know where to find them, it happens sometimes!

                                          If that's the case, your log files will point to the missing libraries, install them or find them burried in your system and copy them to your game directory.

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