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Seems like the perfect day to ask: Muricans, what's your dream country to expatriate to? Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

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  • S [email protected]

    Ex patriot is a whitewashing term for immigrant. Because immigrants has a negative connotation so whites had to make up another term so they could differentiate themselves.

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    “Expatriate”

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      Checked and found that US citizens don't have inherent right to work in EU - it's only easier to travel, not to settle down.
      And speaking of renting - it really depends. If we're talking about Copenhagen, it is expensive, the market is broken (thanks AirBnb), and it's really hard and expensive to move in. I burned through my savings and owed some money to my employer before I could invite the rest of my family into a freshly-rented apartment. But if we're talking about "a bed under a roof", it's super easy to find a room on FB Marketplace, and live with a couple of other internationals.
      So if it's just about "getting out of US" (crazy, I never thought it would be a thing, I'm sorry for them), then finding work is a must, but in a big city you usually can find something. It's only hard to find something nice and permanent

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      yes, permanent employment that allows you to stay in the country is a must. As a trans person in the US, it's been difficult to know whether to give up my career and whole life for basically constant instability and risk living as an immigrant in another country, especially when trans rights are getting stripped everywhere else too. Getting trans healthcare in Europe is not always such a breeze even for citizens.

      Still, I appreciate your optimism and willingness to see the possibilities- that's important to know.

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      • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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        Morocco or Jordan. Been trying to learn Arabic for a few years and would love to be forced to take it more seriously. Mostly can just read the letters. They are relatively safe countries that are in areas of the world I have studied extensively. Also means closer travel to many of the old cities I want to visit.

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        • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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          Germany here, only the smart once please. Dont need the idiots. Already got enought here

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          • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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            Americans would do anything to not call a general strike.

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              “Expatriate”

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              Buddy I already have. ✌️

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              • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneD [email protected]

                yes, permanent employment that allows you to stay in the country is a must. As a trans person in the US, it's been difficult to know whether to give up my career and whole life for basically constant instability and risk living as an immigrant in another country, especially when trans rights are getting stripped everywhere else too. Getting trans healthcare in Europe is not always such a breeze even for citizens.

                Still, I appreciate your optimism and willingness to see the possibilities- that's important to know.

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                Denmark is fine for trans - nobody cares who you are, in a way that you have the same rights.

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                  "Stay in Germany and fight, your cowards"

                  -@[email protected] said to Jewish Refugees in 1933

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                  You're ignorant of history and that's a problem.

                  There were fewer than 500,000 jewish Germans in 1933. That's less than 1% of the population.

                  The millions who were murdered were mainly citizens of Poland and the Soviet Union. If the nations of Western Europe had prepared themselves better for war and fought with more tenacity, millions would have lived.

                  The absolute disaster that the Wehrmacht inflicted on the Soviet Union is largely the result of Stalin's defects. Dictators are bad; an obvious lesson. A less obvious lesson comes from the Generalplan Ost. The Nazis wanted to murder much of the population east of Germany; Poles, Czecks, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, and others. Many tens of millions of individual human beings were to be killed, mainly through hunger. Then the territory was to be settled by Germans, That's the whole Lebensraum thing.

                  Where should all these people have gone?

                  That's why the Ukrainians today don't have a choice. Putin wants to eradicate the ukrainian ethnicity. We know that. We don't know how many people he is willing to murder; to physically eradicate. Would you take the chance?


                  In 1939, immediately before WW2 and the holocaust, the MS St. Louis sailed with 900 jewish refugees from Nazi Germany to Cuba. But Cuba refused to take them in, as it had just hardened its laws. The ship sailed to Canada and the USA, but they, too, refused. Something, something, race.

                  Eventually, the UK, France, Belgium, and the Netherlands took pity on these people and gave them shelter. Obviously, many of those on the continent were murdered in the Holocaust.

                  Where do you think 65 million US Latinos will go? They live in the US and they will die in the US. One way or the other.

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                    Also even with a gringo accent, you'll fit right in /jk

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                    You might be surprised. I love this country so much.

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                      Costa Rica 🇨🇷

                      Our country attracts a lot of American tourists, they mainly go to the beaches and national parks but I have seen them on my city sometimes

                      I'm fine with it, I highly suggest you learn Spanish since we are a Spanish-speaking country, and you can only see English on the tourist areas

                      Also if you want to become a citizen you need to do some sort of exam that for most foreign people is hard. Just so y'all know

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                      I love your country and am considering moving there. I just got divorced and I'm going to do a big shake up of my life. If I don't get this job in Texas and I can get my balls in order, I might just do it. Ticos son la gente muy generoso y amistosa. Tengo solo un poco español pero vivir en Costa Rica? Yo estudio muy rapido en la pais.

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                      • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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                        I’ve lived in NYC for 20 years, I’d only give it up for Barcelona

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                        • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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                          As a member of the CAF, if the US Armed Forces are getting rid of LGBTQ folks, I would be proud to welcome them as my comrades in arms.

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                            When America sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.

                            https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7764650-when-mexico-sends-its-people-they-re-not-sending-their-best

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                            The funny thing is, the worst of us love the US and what it's becoming. Smart, decent people are the ones talking about leaving.

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                              Canadian here. I'll welcome anyone who voted against Trump.

                              Those who voted for Trump or didn't vote at all can die in a ditch.

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                              Thank you for that. For me, if I make a big move, especially out of country, I gotta go somewhere warm. I live in the mountains of WV and last winter nearly ended my life, for real. I was just talking this through with a friend- is it better to flee or stand our ground against the fascists?

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                              • R [email protected]

                                There were some very fucked up things happening in our very red state, both in general and to us in particular. We had considered something similar, like moving to Maine or Vermont. These things happened just at the right time in 2024 that it was obvious that trump was going to win, but we still had time to plan to get out before he did.

                                We figured if we were going to go through the hassle of moving far enough away that any friends or family were going to fly to come vist us, that just moving to a blue state wasn't good enough. We figured that when trump was reelected that even blue states wouldn't be safe enough.

                                And believe me, I am well aware of how fortunate I am, because I was not always so fortunate. I realize that not everyone can do it. There were a couple of women married to each other that lived near us that were scared as hell, but they couldn't afford to move to any of the places they were researching.

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                                I researched Canada thoroughly, and I think I even (used to, before trump’s shenanigans) qualify for expedited citizenship. I also work remotely, for a global company, and will just keep my job. Unfortunately there were just too many costs involved, and I couldn’t foot the bill. It sucks, because you get a lot more house for a lot fewer dollars up there. I haven’t given up though. But it’s at least a year or two down the road.

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                                • goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

                                  Germany here, only the smart once please. Dont need the idiots. Already got enought here

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                                  I was smart once! OMW!!

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                                    Here in Canada we're trying to catch America's brain drain. We especially need doctors quite desperately.

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                                    doctors

                                    How's the demand for nurses? I'll be finishing up nursing school in less than a year! 😄

                                    Or support staff? I'm a surgical tech now, and some of my coworkers (other techs, schedulers - bottom of the medical food chain, but still with specialty experience) feel trapped here by their lack of higher education.

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                                      Costa Rica 🇨🇷

                                      Our country attracts a lot of American tourists, they mainly go to the beaches and national parks but I have seen them on my city sometimes

                                      I'm fine with it, I highly suggest you learn Spanish since we are a Spanish-speaking country, and you can only see English on the tourist areas

                                      Also if you want to become a citizen you need to do some sort of exam that for most foreign people is hard. Just so y'all know

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                                      Hi, I am an American and will be visiting your country very soon! I've never been outside of the US and know very little Spanish. I'm going with a family member who is getting dental work done and well be in San Jose. We're very excited for the trip, do you have any tips for first timers?

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                                        You might be surprised. I love this country so much.

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                                        I like it too. Just making some fun on their Spanish.

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                                          Hi, I am an American and will be visiting your country very soon! I've never been outside of the US and know very little Spanish. I'm going with a family member who is getting dental work done and well be in San Jose. We're very excited for the trip, do you have any tips for first timers?

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                                          Don't plan to be in San Jose. Doesn't have more to give for tourist than maybe a day of museums.

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