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  • L [email protected]

    Woolworths and Sears certainly will never not be the most dominant retail spaces in the United States. They're gokng to live forever!

    (I feel like most people here are too young ho even fully grasp the sarcasm on full display in my comment)

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    Pfft. It's not like you can buy a house from Sears or something.

    Edit: Guessing I got downvoted by somebody too young to understand the reference

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      There's been quite a bit of...unsettlement (totally a word) regarding the news that Discord has a new CEO and the company is going public (typically a sign of things going shittier than before).

      I'd just like to re-post this which I shared some time ago, if you'll indulge me in my rare post which isn't a Steam Deck / Gaming News # post - a rarity for me.

      In the end, this is not the be-all-and-end-all alternative, it won't be for everyone. Matrix exists of course. But this is a nice place. And I thought considering recent events I'd recommend it regardless!

      Following is just a copy of what I posted last time. It's mostly Linux chat, gaming, handhelds (like the Steam Deck), movies and...general chats. Anyway, here's the post:


      So...this one is a bit left-of-field.

      A friend of mine (Gardiner Bryant of YouTube - who reports on Linux and the Steam Deck) has started a Revolt server.

      What is Revolt?

      It's kinda like a FOSS alternative to Discord. You'll see the layout is almost a direct copy, and it's far less polished...but then again you haven't got the downsides of Discord's constant upselling either:

      https://revolt.chat/

      Why is this relevant?

      ...I can hear you ask? Well, so far its just a few developers and creators in there, but I thought of all spaces...maybe those very devs and creators whose work you use and watch...well it might be nice to join in there?

      My personal friends who are in here so far are:

      • imLinguin whose GitHub is here - but you may know most as a developer of Heroic Games Launcher

      • Lazorne whose project is RetroDECK - my personal fav emulation option for the Steam Deck

      • Eben Bruyns whose GitHub is here - but you may know best as the dev of Junk-Store

      • Kyle Gospo whose project is Bazzite

      • Gardiner himself, of course whose YouTube link is here,

      • Jason Evangelho who is the senior contributor of gaming at Forbes - and hasn't read my message yet telling him to join the server so...I'm not even sure why I'm writing this, but regardless his link to his credentials is here

      What is the damn link to the damn server, woman?

      https://rvlt.gg/dqJT3rJH

      I mean, you will have to make an account on Revolt, but it might be interesting to some here. You're all very welcome!

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      If Discord is going to be abandoned by people, I wish we'd go back to proper forums that's much more accessible and searchable. Continuing down this road is just going to lead to the continued burying of useful information behind these services.

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        Discord is too big at this point for people to leave it. I've never heard of revolt until now, I don't see a need in switching because of a new CEO that hasn't done anything yet.

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        Discord's fine now but it sure won't be in 5 years. Companies going public like this always end badly

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          If Discord is going to be abandoned by people, I wish we'd go back to proper forums that's much more accessible and searchable. Continuing down this road is just going to lead to the continued burying of useful information behind these services.

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          I think there's room for both, as in the old days there was typically an IRC channel along side forums that was typically a secondary channel (but not always).

          But yeah, forums would be ideal, preferably with federation support so there is no need to make an account with every single one.

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            I think there's room for both, as in the old days there was typically an IRC channel along side forums that was typically a secondary channel (but not always).

            But yeah, forums would be ideal, preferably with federation support so there is no need to make an account with every single one.

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            Well, you see IRC and forums went together because they filled two different needs and we understood that back in the day.

            IRC was for chatting, short, quick real time communication that would be lost to the ether as soon as you signed off, unless you had a bouncer or log bot.

            Forums were for long information, be that long posts or posts that needed to endure for a long time. Sure you’d get some one liner responses to those posts, but forums were not at all instant like IRC. Though the information did stay much longer, and was much more searchable and organized.

            Discord has spoiled us, being quick and chatty while also allowing for longer posts and being searchable. At least within the Discord client. Shoot they even added those “forum” channels to replicate the old forum feel. But real time.

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              Discord's fine now but it sure won't be in 5 years. Companies going public like this always end badly

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              How do you know that for sure?

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                In terms of desktop applications, looks like Element and Revolt look pretty comparable these days. Mobile app Revolt looks better to me. Matrix seems way more established considering downloads of Element (there's numerous Matrix applications) on Google Play and FlatHub

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                Mobile app Revolt is nice, but doesn’t support servers that aren’t the main one yet last I tried.

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                  How do you know that for sure?

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                  Take a look at Snapchat, Microsoft Solitaire, or most dating apps. That's what this usually looks like after 5-10 years.

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                    There's been quite a bit of...unsettlement (totally a word) regarding the news that Discord has a new CEO and the company is going public (typically a sign of things going shittier than before).

                    I'd just like to re-post this which I shared some time ago, if you'll indulge me in my rare post which isn't a Steam Deck / Gaming News # post - a rarity for me.

                    In the end, this is not the be-all-and-end-all alternative, it won't be for everyone. Matrix exists of course. But this is a nice place. And I thought considering recent events I'd recommend it regardless!

                    Following is just a copy of what I posted last time. It's mostly Linux chat, gaming, handhelds (like the Steam Deck), movies and...general chats. Anyway, here's the post:


                    So...this one is a bit left-of-field.

                    A friend of mine (Gardiner Bryant of YouTube - who reports on Linux and the Steam Deck) has started a Revolt server.

                    What is Revolt?

                    It's kinda like a FOSS alternative to Discord. You'll see the layout is almost a direct copy, and it's far less polished...but then again you haven't got the downsides of Discord's constant upselling either:

                    https://revolt.chat/

                    Why is this relevant?

                    ...I can hear you ask? Well, so far its just a few developers and creators in there, but I thought of all spaces...maybe those very devs and creators whose work you use and watch...well it might be nice to join in there?

                    My personal friends who are in here so far are:

                    • imLinguin whose GitHub is here - but you may know most as a developer of Heroic Games Launcher

                    • Lazorne whose project is RetroDECK - my personal fav emulation option for the Steam Deck

                    • Eben Bruyns whose GitHub is here - but you may know best as the dev of Junk-Store

                    • Kyle Gospo whose project is Bazzite

                    • Gardiner himself, of course whose YouTube link is here,

                    • Jason Evangelho who is the senior contributor of gaming at Forbes - and hasn't read my message yet telling him to join the server so...I'm not even sure why I'm writing this, but regardless his link to his credentials is here

                    What is the damn link to the damn server, woman?

                    https://rvlt.gg/dqJT3rJH

                    I mean, you will have to make an account on Revolt, but it might be interesting to some here. You're all very welcome!

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                    Just switched my friend group over to Matrix. Honestly looked at Revolt, but no federation was a non-starter. Convincing friends to leave is hard enough, unfortunately being locked into a single server was a non-starter. It's too bad, they have a great UI, but I think they should have left the backend to trusted protocols.

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                      Just switched my friend group over to Matrix. Honestly looked at Revolt, but no federation was a non-starter. Convincing friends to leave is hard enough, unfortunately being locked into a single server was a non-starter. It's too bad, they have a great UI, but I think they should have left the backend to trusted protocols.

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                      Just imagine the good they could have done by being a new competent Matrix client that can do everything, but instead they are a Discord clone.

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