Old people in Japan should commit mass suicide says Yale professor
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Aha. Before committing mass suicide, they might want to use the next 75 years to invent robot caregivers. That'd be another option to deal with old people.
but we could isolate and study those old people to determine what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use!
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I'm not confident that courting the suggestion of suicide by bringing public attention to it is the ethical move for a journalist.
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Old people in Japan should commit mass suicide says random asshole idiot
Just because he's something something from Yale doesn't mean he's right or even an authority on the subject. With the statement he made it's fairly obvious that he's an idiot and likely a psychopath soooooo why is the press giving this any attention?
Heck, I could argue that by giving this attention, some people might be tempted to implement this idea, this article it just plain stupid.
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Oh hey, I've read that Vonnegut story.
We are what we pretend to be?
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Actual Japanese here, even within the dark humor context, I wholeheartedly agree with Yusuke Narita.
It's precisely the gerontocracy in Japan why the nation is heading extremely far right. The aging oppressive population needs to retire, vacate, and leave the younger generation capable of making their choices. We are the lowest GDP first nation because of elders oppressing.
I'm glad Yusukeさん is in the 🇺🇲, but I’m afraid he’ll be deathcamped soon.
I'm thankful 28 folks read the article correctly. Fuck oppression.
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The article is from 2023 and the source is a anti abortion site. The big red flag for me was the tweet from Pierre Pollievre saying how Conservatives are there to help people.
From what I've seen when Japanese people saw the footage and context of the conversation they do believe it was more about older generation moving on.
Dr Narita has now told The New York Times his comments were “taken out of context”, and the paper reported that he added “they related to demands for older people in leadership positions to make way for the younger generation”.
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Just asking out of curiosity, but if that occurred, would that actually solve the problem of population decline?
To be clear I’m not advocating for this, I’m just trying to understand the what’s going on.
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Just asking out of curiosity, but if that occurred, would that actually solve the problem of population decline?
To be clear I’m not advocating for this, I’m just trying to understand the what’s going on.
Well it would free up a lot of resources that could be redirected to free child care.
but it seems more like people are being over worked and underpaid. They just can't afford to spend time or money on kids
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Aha. Before committing mass suicide, they might want to use the next 75 years to invent robot caregivers. That'd be another option to deal with old people.
Who's paying for it? All the old people going to work?
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Well it would free up a lot of resources that could be redirected to free child care.
but it seems more like people are being over worked and underpaid. They just can't afford to spend time or money on kids
My wife and I make decent money and could afford a kid, but we do not have the time.
We are both working over 40 hour weeks.
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My wife and I make decent money and could afford a kid, but we do not have the time.
We are both working over 40 hour weeks.
We have the time and money but we don't like kids. Most of the population decline is because more and more people realize they don't need kids to be happy.
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Counterpoint: Everyone who ever attended yale should commit mass suicide
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Well it would free up a lot of resources that could be redirected to free child care.
but it seems more like people are being over worked and underpaid. They just can't afford to spend time or money on kids
Grandparents are a major source of free childcare
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We have the time and money but we don't like kids. Most of the population decline is because more and more people realize they don't need kids to be happy.
My wife and I mainly worry about what will happen to us when we are very elderly.
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My wife and I mainly worry about what will happen to us when we are very elderly.
I think having kids as a retirement plan is pretty selfish. I would rather save money so that when I'm old I can afford proper assistance. This of course is not a valid option everywhere but where I live nursing homes are good and affordable and euthanasia is legal.
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Counterpoint: Everyone who ever attended yale should commit mass suicide
I know this is meant to be a joke but it is incentive.
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I think having kids as a retirement plan is pretty selfish. I would rather save money so that when I'm old I can afford proper assistance. This of course is not a valid option everywhere but where I live nursing homes are good and affordable and euthanasia is legal.
I think the problem is that there might not be people to staff those nursing homes.
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These people should sacrifice themselves in service of an economic system's growth I.operative.
Capitalism is the atheists religion.
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Who's paying for it? All the old people going to work?
Well, for one, the people who are old in 75 years, haven't even all finished school as of today. They're going to have to pay for it and manufacture them themselves while they're young (which is today), or it won't be a thing once they're old.
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Just asking out of curiosity, but if that occurred, would that actually solve the problem of population decline?
To be clear I’m not advocating for this, I’m just trying to understand the what’s going on.
No. This would have lots of weird impacts. In the countryside, a lot of employees are quite old. A lot also do childcare for their grandkids at least some of the time. A lot of farmers would be gone as well. There's also a lot of paperwork that suddenly needs to be done grinding a lot of government to a halt. A lot of businesses as well since, from what I've seen form friends' older relatives dying, a lot of people do NOT have their shit in order and Japan has lots of small businesses and sole proprietorships.
Depending upon the wording of the policies and suicide, life insurance companies might have big issues or families might have huge monetary issues. I guess we can pretend they don't all die at once and clog up the whole morgue and funeral infrastructure which is a whole other thing.
The religious and political implications could be interesting. Bhuddist gravesites in Japan for family graves tend to be very expensive to buy and maintain.
I could actually keep going for a while, but the short version is that, at least in the short term, it would likely do more harm than good. This says nothing of the actual emotional impact on people.
