Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald
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Signal will be delisted from Android/Apple store. That'll curb the majority of Signal use in Sweden. I suspect Sweden isn't going to after individuals. They could if they wanted to. ISP blocking, probably not, but yes ISPs can block Signal by blocking all known Signal servers. That's why Signal supports special proxies that allow individuals to run to allow people from blocked locations to access the Signal servers.
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They will likely IP geofence Sweden to block connections to Signal’s servers being made there.
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The proposed law would require messaging apps to store copies of user messages.
The law isn’t targeted at users directly. It’s targeted at the service providers. If the cops can access your phone you’re already screwed.
Blocking Signal traffic might be theoretically feasible but it would be a game of whack-a-mole. Legally, Signal might have to stop serving IPs in Sweden but that’s Sweden’s problem and VPNs exist.
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I think you wildly misunderstand the average person's motivations and how they weigh decisions.
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Nice PR move, but when do you announce leaving the US, which is the much bigger issue right now?
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While that's generally true, one of the main reasons why people choose apps like Signal is the privacy. People that aren't aware and don't care generally wouldn't have switched to Signal in the first place.
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While that's generally true, one of the main reasons why people choose apps like Signal is the privacy. People that aren't aware and don't care generally wouldn't have switched to Signal in the first place.
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The "average person" you have in mind who obviously does not care about cryptographic security also does not use Signal.
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We're talking about Signal, not FB Messenger. People use Signal because of the encryption, and they would leave.
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i am searching their link to Sweden
::: spoiler no link found yet, i will search again
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Usually enforcement happens at companies, not people.
Signal would get a fee, transactions flowing through their country would get seized.
It doesn't affect people who use it. That would be authoritarian censorship.
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No. Thats not what the law does. Sweden doesn't do censorship.
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There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.
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That’ll curb the majority of Signal use in Sweden.
...unless a bunch of users plan to actually do something illegal, in which case a delisting from the app store doesn't stop anything. Once again, it's just to enable data collection about as many ordinary citizens as possible.
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"Leaving a country" for digital services usually means not providing services there anymore.
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thats not the target audience, thankfully.
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The target audience is everybody with a Smartphone.
The majority of people in my signal contacts are there because someone (sometimes me) pushed them to use it instead of WhatsApp.
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Thanks, this makes a lot more sense.
... i keep, time and again, searching for things, only to discover my "search goal" is not based in reality. -
The question was what Signal would do though ...
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It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...
