Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald
-
- According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
-
E [email protected] shared this topic
-
Is this law broad enough to also catch up Proton and its services?
This attack by governments on encryption is getting more and more concerning.
-
They want less accountability for themselves so they can get away with more corruption.
I hope people take notes.
-
The "if" to that "then" being that if they pass a law that would make Signal illegal in Sweden, then Signal will leave Sweden.
-
And now it starts. Programs specifically designed to be encrypted getting attacked.
-
Illegal unless they install the backdoors. They could choose to do that instead of leaving Sweden, but they are choosing to leave Sweden.
-
Proton is swiss
-
I'm a bit surprised that the armed forces are openly opposing this, but good for them!
-
If they did that, Signal would no longer exist at all. Nobody anywhere in the world would want to continue using it.
-
I have to ask. If Signal "leaves" Sweden because it is deemed illegal without backdoor, how would this even work regarding enforcement? Your phone gets searched and if they find Signal you get a fee? Messaging being blocked somehow by Swedish ISPs, is that even possible?
-
That is because they just decided to switch to use it for internal communications. This means that they would have to roll back that decision.
-
Signal will be delisted from Android/Apple store. That'll curb the majority of Signal use in Sweden. I suspect Sweden isn't going to after individuals. They could if they wanted to. ISP blocking, probably not, but yes ISPs can block Signal by blocking all known Signal servers. That's why Signal supports special proxies that allow individuals to run to allow people from blocked locations to access the Signal servers.
-
They will likely IP geofence Sweden to block connections to Signal’s servers being made there.
-
The proposed law would require messaging apps to store copies of user messages.
The law isn’t targeted at users directly. It’s targeted at the service providers. If the cops can access your phone you’re already screwed.
Blocking Signal traffic might be theoretically feasible but it would be a game of whack-a-mole. Legally, Signal might have to stop serving IPs in Sweden but that’s Sweden’s problem and VPNs exist.
-
I think you wildly misunderstand the average person's motivations and how they weigh decisions.
-
Nice PR move, but when do you announce leaving the US, which is the much bigger issue right now?
-
While that's generally true, one of the main reasons why people choose apps like Signal is the privacy. People that aren't aware and don't care generally wouldn't have switched to Signal in the first place.
-
While that's generally true, one of the main reasons why people choose apps like Signal is the privacy. People that aren't aware and don't care generally wouldn't have switched to Signal in the first place.
-
The "average person" you have in mind who obviously does not care about cryptographic security also does not use Signal.
-
We're talking about Signal, not FB Messenger. People use Signal because of the encryption, and they would leave.
