Mozilla is Introducing 'Terms of Use' to Firefox | Also about to go into effect is an updated privacy notice
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librewolf on pc and ironfox on android. both forks of firefox.
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Danke danke
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So phone-home telemetry that you can't opt out of. The ghost of Mitchell Baker will haunt us forever.
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Librewolf, Servo looks promising but is very far off and just an engine I think? Idk I keep looking at it and want it.
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So phone-home telemetry that you can’t opt out of.
You can opt out of it. You've always been able to opt out of Mozilla's telemetry. Not to mention that if you actually read the Privacy Notice, there's an entire section detailing every single piece of telemetry that Mozilla collects, and if you read the section very clearly titled "To provide AI chatbots," you'll see what's collected:
- Technical data
- Location
- Settings data
- Unique identifiers
- Interaction data
The consent required for the collection to even start:
Our lawful basis
Consent, when you choose to enable an AI Chatbot.
And links that lead to the page explaining how to turn off telemetry even if you're using the in-beta AI features.
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Privacy policies should legally be called surveillance policies.
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Why IronFox over fennec?
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Or "Invasion of Privacy" Policy
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Sorry, I realized I'm using my personal jargon in public again. When I said "AI," I meant this overhyped put-it-in-your-mouse garbage. When I'm talking about the actually useful stuff, I usually call it "ML."
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100%. I can't decide whether I think the organization being dissolved completely is a good idea or not, but I'm at least open to it.
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Servo isn't a full browser, it's a tech testbed for Mozilla to test out their various rewritten Rust components. I wish they would have promoted it to full browser status, but I think intention was always to take pieces of Servo as they were completed and drop them into Firefox.
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It says they're going to collect usage data. Nothing about opting out.
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+1 for LibreWolf. Dialy driver and not looking back.
Ice Raven on Android.
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More privacy related defaults. Essentially the about:config is more or less filled out for you on Ironfox.
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This is my pair as well
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Damn, maybe I can't read but I didnt find that info on their page.
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As I understand it, these changes don't affect browsers that use FF as a base, so Zen Browser might not be affected.
I've been trying it out this week, and it's good. And can still use all the FF extensions.
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Hmm seems like it's only partially true these days. Looking at their webpage they have a screenshot of their Wikipedia entry (why they didn't just link to it I have no idea) that provides some more up to date info. It was a testbed and they mention a project Quantum where the tech was added into Firefox's Gecko engine. In 2020 Mozilla laid off all their Servo devs and handed the project over to Linux Foundation Europe. It seems like since then they've reenvisioned the project as an embeddable rendering engine similar to WebKit or V8.
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Oh, well thank you for the info. I guess its a good thing Librewolf already exists.
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Look at the links in my comment, and you'll see that all of the categories of telemetry data there can be opted out of with that single switch.
JFC please read the actual documents instead of going "nothing about opting out" when it's literally right there.
