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$16bn health agency managed finances with Excel spreadsheet.

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  • tea@programming.devT This user is from outside of this forum
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    It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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      It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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      Just goes to show that a spreadsheet is a very powerful tool.🤣

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        It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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        That depends on spending articles, not on sum amount. Maybe their accounting is as simple as: 10bn income, 2bn to steal, 3 for salaries, 1 for medicaments and machinery, rest for advertisements.

        You don't need super-pooper software for that.

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          Just goes to show that a spreadsheet is a very powerful tool.🤣

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          You could run empires on the back of a spreadsheet.

          You absolutely shouldn't, it's nearly the worst option you have available, but you could.

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            You could run empires on the back of a spreadsheet.

            You absolutely shouldn't, it's nearly the worst option you have available, but you could.

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            It's not the worst option available, it might not be the cleanest solution, but it does offer a level of flexibility if you have an in-depth understanding of key operational (or financial) business processes.

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            • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

              It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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              It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

              How does erotic role play help tame Excel?

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                It's not the worst option available, it might not be the cleanest solution, but it does offer a level of flexibility if you have an in-depth understanding of key operational (or financial) business processes.

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                Shift+F9.. annnnd, the data is gone

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                • amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                  It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

                  How does erotic role play help tame Excel?

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                  I would also like to know more.

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                    That depends on spending articles, not on sum amount. Maybe their accounting is as simple as: 10bn income, 2bn to steal, 3 for salaries, 1 for medicaments and machinery, rest for advertisements.

                    You don't need super-pooper software for that.

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                    Yeah, it depends entirely on how many things you're tracking and how many people need to access it. It's probably not the right tool here, but sometimes it just is.

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                      That depends on spending articles, not on sum amount. Maybe their accounting is as simple as: 10bn income, 2bn to steal, 3 for salaries, 1 for medicaments and machinery, rest for advertisements.

                      You don't need super-pooper software for that.

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                      Even if their spending is that simple in terms of categories, it's almost certain their breakdown within each category is definitely quite a bit more complex. Hell, my wife runs her own therapy practice with just herself and she talks about how obnoxious dealing with insurance is for billing all the time.

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                        Shift+F9.. annnnd, the data is gone

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                        Not if there is a BACKUP folder with daily copies of all your spreadsheets.

                        Sifting through the backups is so much fun when you're trying to find when a particular issue started.

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                        • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

                          It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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                          Honestly, that's fine. This may be a wild take, but they grew and their usage of excel obviously didn't hold them back, what's the issue?

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                            Not if there is a BACKUP folder with daily copies of all your spreadsheets.

                            Sifting through the backups is so much fun when you're trying to find when a particular issue started.

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                            Excel is indeed super powerful. I've seen firsthand what they power in multiple Fortune 500 companies, and usually for a lot of critical tasks. It doesn't surprise me in the least that this company was using it for finances.

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                            • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                              It's not the worst option available, it might not be the cleanest solution, but it does offer a level of flexibility if you have an in-depth understanding of key operational (or financial) business processes.

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                              This is why I specified "nearly" the worst. It can absolutely get the job done and has basically every tool you'd need to do the job, but it's pretty much the worst amongst the "this will do everything you need" options.

                              My thought process was abacus < pen & paper < text file < spreadsheet < database solutions

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                                It's not the worst option available, it might not be the cleanest solution, but it does offer a level of flexibility if you have an in-depth understanding of key operational (or financial) business processes.

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                                It's better than just text files or word I guess

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                                • amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                  It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

                                  How does erotic role play help tame Excel?

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                                  It let's your accounts blow off steam so they use excel better instead of filling the account ting sheets with dirty messages

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                                    It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

                                    How does erotic role play help tame Excel?

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                                    For a non-joke answer. ERP in this context means Enterprise Resource Planning. It basically allows you to do everything an enterprise requires with one software system instead of using several different ones.

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                                      This is why I specified "nearly" the worst. It can absolutely get the job done and has basically every tool you'd need to do the job, but it's pretty much the worst amongst the "this will do everything you need" options.

                                      My thought process was abacus < pen & paper < text file < spreadsheet < database solutions

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                                      But a spreadsheet can function like a database. 🤣

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                                      • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

                                        It's just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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                                        Only those with no experience in corporate finance will find this surprising.

                                        Excel is a powerful tool. The only ones who ridicule it are idiots who don't understand anything.

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                                          Only those with no experience in corporate finance will find this surprising.

                                          Excel is a powerful tool. The only ones who ridicule it are idiots who don't understand anything.

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                                          In fairness to the register they also ridicule moving to a dedicatdd ERP in the same article.

                                          You're r absolutely right there is nothing wrong with Excel. Its powerful software and ultimately it cones down to human and organisational processes about whether its being used to its best or not. You can also have the most expensive top end dedicated ERP in the world and still be a total mess. Similarly business used to run on pen and paper and could be highly efficient.

                                          Software is just a tool, and organisation go wrong when they think it alone is the solution to their problems.

                                          Also I doubt Health NZ overspend has anything whatsoever to do with excel. Instead it'll be due to rising demand, and inflationary pressures on public finances. We have the exact problems here in the UK with the NHS just scaled up to a £182bn.

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