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Remember, kids! Unregulated capitalism is not your friend!

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  • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

    Its a states failure to protect its citizens but its not a commodificaton of poverty. Poverty has always had value and always been a commodity. They aren't creating the poverty or the circumstances that would perpetuate it. They're just fulfilling a need so its really no harm.

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    Unless they were in cahoots with the government to ensure housing prices remain high. I'm not saying that was the case back then but the incentive was always there.

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    • track_shovel@slrpnk.netT [email protected]

      Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get my cancerous scrotum looked at coughs up chimney dust

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      The rope trick sounds like a good idea to put on a plane

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      • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

        Its a states failure to protect its citizens but its not a commodificaton of poverty. Poverty has always had value and always been a commodity. They aren't creating the poverty or the circumstances that would perpetuate it. They're just fulfilling a need so its really no harm.

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        What?

        A modern circumstance would be refusal to raise min wage to a reasonable wage. That’s absolutely a circumstance abetting poverty. If you don’t believe in that, then unfettered capitalism is commodifying poverty and increasing disparity.

        You either maximize rules and services to prevent poverty, or you allow exploitation to increase it.

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          What the fuck? This is an example of the extreme commodification of poverty and the state's failure to protect its citizens.

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          As compared to today, where we humanely let homeless people sleep under bridges instead

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            As compared to today, where we humanely let homeless people sleep under bridges instead

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            The states didn't fix anything, they only legislate against its visibility when its exploitation becomes troublesome to them

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              The states didn't fix anything, they only legislate against its visibility when its exploitation becomes troublesome to them

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              It appears to me that we actively made the problem worse by removing shelter options from the market. It seems like you USED to be able to pay a small fee to sleep somewhere with a roof over your head, and now your only options are $1800/mo in rent, or sleeping on the street.

              No, I fail to see how the image shows a failure of capitalism. I think the lack of affordable options today is a failure of our own fucked up form of government

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                The rope trick sounds like a good idea to put on a plane

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                Oh great, thanks for that suggestion. 6 months from now when airlines bring out the "no seat just a rope" economy option, we'll know who to blame.

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                  What the fuck? This is an example of the extreme commodification of poverty and the state's failure to protect its citizens.

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                  It's neither. I don't remember the context exactly but none of the text on the picture is true.

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                    Oh great, thanks for that suggestion. 6 months from now when airlines bring out the "no seat just a rope" economy option, we'll know who to blame.

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                    Well sitting is bad for your health anyway! Human body wasnt meant for sitting
                    [/sarcasm]

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                      I am, you're right. Where did England's gin come from?

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                      Never looked into making gin, but juniper berries are plenty plentiful!

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                        Never looked into making gin, but juniper berries are plenty plentiful!

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                        Not that I'm going to follow through with this, but this has got me thinking about all the waste streams from food production with excess carbs that could be used to make alcohol.

                        • stale bread
                        • skins/peels of various fruits and vegetables from processing to other products like apple juice, baby carrots, potato chips/crisps.
                        • excess dairy milk production/near expiry dairy milk
                        • stale popcorn that gets thrown away from movie theaters/sporting events
                        • everyone uses nearly black bananas for banana bread. Why not use those carbs for fermenting into alcohol?
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                        • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                          This is an example of capitalism providing an economical solution where no one else did.

                          Sure it sucks, but at least they can get a minimum level of safety while on the 10 year wait list for government housing.

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                          You're getting massively down voted. I really feel like this is a huge obstacle to mitigating poverty in the first world. People focus on appearances; getting rid of things that look poor even when they actually help people.

                          Yes, it's upsetting to see people taking such desperate measures. But those measures were taken in response to desperate need. If you fixed the need, then they would go away on their own. If you need to apply force to remove them, then you have not.

                          It's the same reason people oppose public transit, dense housing, and informal businesses. Things that are just part of life in the third world. But wealthy and middle class westerners have decided on behalf of poor westerners that poor westerners are too good for them.

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                            Well sitting is bad for your health anyway! Human body wasnt meant for sitting
                            [/sarcasm]

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                            The human body however was definitely meant to be slung over a rope and then flown thousands of miles through the air to land in a tropical country and get plastered.

                            It's how nature intended

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                              ... the coffin house was popular because it offered an economical and mid-range solution for homeless clients ...

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                              What a nice humanitarian gesture these are. Something Bill Gates would do instead of paying his taxes.

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