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  • W [email protected]

    I was planning on moving away from Cloudflare to European providers anyway, so this just adds fuel to the fire.

    I'm considering using BunnyDNS for DNS management, not using a CDN at all, and using Scaleway for serverless functions.

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    #83

    Maybe is against the ToS but I've used github as CDN for free in the past... Might work for you.

    I never felt it was wrong, it was around the time of the Microsoft acquisition.

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    • M [email protected]

      Oh i can definitely see custom browsers being useful in that area. I remember the JavaScript navigator properties were always such a PITA as there was nothing you could really do to get around what they exposed

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      #84

      There's a whole world of tools you can use that do that for you now. It's easier than ever. To me it's concerning. The level of automation, coupled with a halfway decent LLM, can give you the ability to summon hordes of fake humans to social media. I can't help but think it's why X and Reddit don't use any kind of anti-bot solution.

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      • serotoninswells@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        Welcome to bot detection. It's a cat and mouse game, an ever changing battle where each side makes moves and counter moves. You can see this with the creation of captcha-less challenges.

        But to say captcha are useless because bots can pass them is somewhat similar to saying your antivirus is useless because certain malware and ransomware can bypass it.

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        #85

        Uh, no, they are better than humans at solving them.

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        • A [email protected]

          Maybe is against the ToS but I've used github as CDN for free in the past... Might work for you.

          I never felt it was wrong, it was around the time of the Microsoft acquisition.

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          #86

          I appreciate the suggestion, but Github is also an American company. I've been moving my git repositories to Codeberg.

          My sites don't get enough traffic to warrant a CDN really, but if necessary, BunnyCDN looks like it can fit the bill. Plus, my static sites are in Scaleway object storage.

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          • H [email protected]

            LibreWolf is next, and it's not exactly niche. In seeing it more and more, and LW defaults, even dropping resist settings, gets bounced by CloudFlare every time.

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            #87

            Wouldn't that also block Firefox by proxy?

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              Wouldn't that also block Firefox by proxy?

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              #88

              Doesn't seem to. I turned off all the LW resist options, plus all my extensions, and still ended up in an infinite loop. But same extensions in FF doesn't seem to have an effect.

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                Doesn't seem to. I turned off all the LW resist options, plus all my extensions, and still ended up in an infinite loop. But same extensions in FF doesn't seem to have an effect.

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                #89

                And so far LibreWolf and Icecat have both worked fine for me.

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                • M [email protected]

                  Uh, no, they are better than humans at solving them.

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                  How are you measuring this? On my end, when I look at the metrics I have available to me, the volume of bot requests that are passing captcha does not exceed that of humans. We continually review false positives and false negatives to make sure we aren't impacting humans while still making it hard for bots.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    It is obvious that Cloudflare is being influenced to enforce browser monopolies. Imagine if Cloudflare existed in 2003 and stopped non Internet Explorer browsers. If you use cloudflare to "protect" your site you are discriminating against browser choice and are as bad as Microsoft in 1998.

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                    #91

                    Agreed. I use cloudflare for domain hosting because they're cheap, but I have never liked their protections.

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                    • R [email protected]

                      What doesn't work with Lynx is a wrong website.

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                      #92

                      Agree for static content like news and blogs. Disagree for dynamic content like games and social media. And the latter is mostly for scale (having server-side templating is expensive for rapidly changing content).

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                      • J [email protected]

                        Need to start spoofing user agent strings again.

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                        #93

                        Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Hotbar 3.0)

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                        • T [email protected]

                          I can't use my Browser without it being created by a tech giant, cant use my new computer without having my software uefi signed by Microsoft, AI will soon need me to have my GPU licensed and registered.

                          The world is heading to crap.

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                          #94

                          You can always build a PC and not have to deal with that UEFI signing stuff as you're expected to provide your own OS still, that option hasn't been eliminated yet.

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                          • serotoninswells@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                            How are you measuring this? On my end, when I look at the metrics I have available to me, the volume of bot requests that are passing captcha does not exceed that of humans. We continually review false positives and false negatives to make sure we aren't impacting humans while still making it hard for bots.

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                            https://duckduckgo.com/?q=captcha+ai+better&t=fpas&ia=web

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