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Why I recommend against Brave.

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  • ? Guest

    There's always Ungoogled Chromium. If you do want to suggest Brave to people, please tell them about these downsides as well.

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    Ofc I will try my best to tell people about up/down side of a product. When it come to ungoogled chromium do they still support manifest v2? If yes then it will be also a great choice for desktop.

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      I present: The intellectual prowess of bigots.

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      Yes, because using a web browser is bigotry 😂 It's cool if you don't like it but at least have legitimate reasons for not liking it.

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      • ? Guest

        Am I misunderstanding something? That's what I would expect to see from any search engine when you search for "vaccines" and "news from the right".

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        Yes, the feature is working exactly as intended, and therein lies the problem.

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        • viking@infosec.pubV [email protected]

          Weird, youtube with ublock origin is all I need to enjoy no ads. Are you using some additional scripts that modify youtube in some way?

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          I dont really have problems with YT in Firefox. Just use brave because it’s on my “watching stuff” monitor. Brave did seem to work better during that period where they were being more aggressive about ad blockers but I haven’t seen that for a while.

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          • soapbox1858@lemm.eeS [email protected]

            At this point there is a pretty solid list of reasons to avoid Brave and use another FOSS privacy focused option.

            Personally, everything I've read about Brave makes me trust them even less than Microsoft, and Google.

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            That is the usual effect sensationalism has, but feel free to choose what best suits your needs.

            I do enjoy Cromite, Librewolf, Mullvad Browser, Tor Browser and some others, but I can't deny each (as any) has it's own set of drawbacks. Better to have them in mind when setting up and using those browsers than to panic and run in circles searching for a perfect solution that doesn't exist.

            Even more importantly I'd celebrate that people are using any privacy focused FOSS, even if it's not what I'd ideally use. If they feel motivated to keep on that road they'll end learning to use more advanced options in time.
            On the other hand, make them feel insecure about their options and bloat their minds with sensationalist posts and they'll just use Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge because, "personally", why bother when everyone and everything is so evil and complicated and we're all doomed anyway? 😮‍💨

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            • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

              If you are keen on personal privacy, you might have come across Brave Browser. Brave is a Chromium-based browser that promises to deliver privacy with built-in ad-blocking and content-blocking protection. It also offers several quality-of-life features and services, like a VPN and Tor access. I mean, it's even listed on the reputable PrivacyTools website. Why am I telling you to steer clear of this browser, then?

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              I just installed Brave on my Ubuntu OS on my laptop to replace Chrome. It is running better than chrome was so far. Is there a way to setup Brave to safeguard against some of things mentioned or should I go with something like DuckDuckGo instead?

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                Bar better than chrome, edge or Firefox without modification

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                Why is everyone downvoting this? I haven't used Brave as a daily driver for 3 years since I've been with LibreWolf, but my impression has always been the same, that it's far better than stock Firefox, purely based on privacy (completely ignoring any ethical reasoning for not wanting to support Brave). Chrome and Edge being worse is obvious.

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                • spectrism@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                  Yes, the feature is working exactly as intended, and therein lies the problem.

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                  So people would rather Brave doctored their search results than showed them what they searched for? I genuinely don't know what else right-wing news outlets would write about vaccines 🤣

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    That thread is several months old

                    And? You have new evidence that things have improved?

                    and is specifically about integrating Arkenfox settings changes

                    Why does that matter?

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                    Collaborating with Arkenfox on default settings was nice, but wasn't fundamental to the goals of the project. You can look at their Codeberg to see that the latest activity was a few days ago, and there have been several releases since the date of the thread you linked.

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                      Literally bigots, Russian trolls are defending it like they are on Reddit.

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                      I believe there is, only available to instance mods, community mods, and possibly the OP though if I'm not mistaken.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        Those are good reasons to ditch a product. Yet, at the same time, inside the Apple ecosystem this is the only browser that allows cross platform watching of yt without any ads, therefore suffocating Google and the fat cat MKBHD influencers from income.

                        So it’s like an evil to tame another evil to me atm.

                        Of course the best path forward would be to ditch both Brave and yt and then just get Nebula/patreon or something for serious content browsing.

                        I’m curious though: if I just use Brace only with a few yt tabs open and never open the new empty tab or visit another site, does Brave get any revenue from me?

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                        Can you not use Firefox on apple products? They've got extensions for that I'm sure

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                          I just installed Brave on my Ubuntu OS on my laptop to replace Chrome. It is running better than chrome was so far. Is there a way to setup Brave to safeguard against some of things mentioned or should I go with something like DuckDuckGo instead?

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                          Uninstall it. Firefox and chromium are the most secure browsers you can get. I like to put this in money terms. A 0 day for those two is tens of thousands of dollars. An Opera or brave exploit? Maybe a couple grand

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                          • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                            Most browsers are open source. They're all funded by advertising (except Safari). When you find one that has some sort of sustainable model that isn't advertising, please let me know. I'll be all over it.

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                            Okay are you ready?

                            The model:

                            We program it
                            For literally fun
                            Together many people, that find different parts of bringing the web to people safely
                            We do it completely altruistic

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                              Okay are you ready?

                              The model:

                              We program it
                              For literally fun
                              Together many people, that find different parts of bringing the web to people safely
                              We do it completely altruistic

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                              I don't think you understand. It would take you time to do that. A whole lot of time. Probably thousands of hours. Time is what's known as a "resource".

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                I don't think you understand. It would take you time to do that. A whole lot of time. Probably thousands of hours. Time is what's known as a "resource".

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                                I understood perfectly, your claim is that it takes advertisement. Not time. And nobody has said it doesn't take time.

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                                  I understood perfectly, your claim is that it takes advertisement. Not time. And nobody has said it doesn't take time.

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                                  I understood perfectly

                                  You very clearly did not and still do not.

                                  your claim is that it takes advertisement. Not time.

                                  Somehow you managed to gloss over the only point of my statement while also simultaneously fabricating things that I never said anything about.

                                  And nobody has said it doesn't take time.

                                  You said "no resources are required". As I've just finished mentioning, time is a resource.

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