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  3. Range anxiety is overblown. Electric vehicle owners only use 13 percent of their battery capacity a day, on average.

Range anxiety is overblown. Electric vehicle owners only use 13 percent of their battery capacity a day, on average.

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  • B [email protected]

    Better drive an EV then. Fewer moving parts, practically no maintenance to forget to do. Every ICE car I've owned has required unexpected roadside repairs at one point in time.

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    Wana buy me one?

    Because I can't afford a new car.

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      Be careful with range estimates. You can lose 40% of the range in the cold, for example. And another 30% at highway speeds. Plus you can't charge at exactly 0%, so you want a 10% buffer or so. Assuming you never want to drive further than 100km, you want an EV with a rated 260km of range at least. That shouldn't be difficult with modern EVs, but you'll want to avoid older EVs.

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      Good to know, since we will hit -40 here regularly over winter.

      The Ford midsize pickup they're talking about might be more battery than I need even with that, but it's looking like the only reasonably priced offering.

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      • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        Wana buy me one?

        Because I can't afford a new car.

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        Neither can I, that's why I got a used one, and TBH I can barely afford that.

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          I've owned an EV for 5 years, and I still don't have a level 2 charger at home. It works for me, but it mostly depends on your daily drive.

          It is less efficient than a L2 charger, so I am spending money on electricity that just disappears as heat, so I'll probably get one installed eventually.

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          That's interesting. I hadn't considered the efficiency aspect. L2 would be a pain to install where I live, I'm thinking. It's a bungalow and the breaker box is about as far from the driveway in the basement as is humanly possible. So lots of wiring and drilling to bring the power out to where it's needed seems likely.

          From what others are saying, I probably do not need L2 for my modest driving needs, but the efficiency aspect could imply it would eventually pay itself back in energy savings. But if I have essentially what amounts to the worst case scenario in terms of upfront installation cost, that could take a long time…

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          • J [email protected]

            I’m not ignoring it, I’m simply assuming most poeple are not driving across country constantly… much less without any foresight or planning

            They very clearly explained that it's not "constantly." It's sometimes. Sometimes they would like to take longer trips, and on these longer trips, it makes their trips even longer and more difficult to plan.

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            prescisely my point... they seem to be ruling out EV because of an issue most poeple face very rarely

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            • B [email protected]

              As your range gets low, it starts to vary a lot, but generally you are correct. The owners of my car joking call it "the guessometer". Not sure why you are getting do voted for being mostly right...

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              because it's social media... fellings > facts

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                prescisely my point... they seem to be ruling out EV because of an issue most poeple face very rarely

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                The infrequency of an event doesn’t determine its value or importance.

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                  The infrequency of an event doesn’t determine its value or importance.

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                  no, so I have this meteor hit insurance for
                  you... it only costs 120% of your income

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Better drive an EV then. Fewer moving parts, practically no maintenance to forget to do. Every ICE car I've owned has required unexpected roadside repairs at one point in time.

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                    Funny thing. Only time an ICE has failed me on the road is either the brake caliper locked up or the battery died....

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                      Funny thing. Only time an ICE has failed me on the road is either the brake caliper locked up or the battery died....

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                      Well, I had a muffler partially fall off. Fuel filter clogged (twice) intake manifold cracked and caused a misfire. O2 sensor went haywire and put the car in a limp mode... I've never run out of gas, but I've heard that isn't uncommon for other people. Ignition coils went bad... Consider yourself very lucky.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        no, so I have this meteor hit insurance for
                        you... it only costs 120% of your income

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                        I’ve never had an accident so I guess I don’t need car insurance or seatbelts.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Well, I had a muffler partially fall off. Fuel filter clogged (twice) intake manifold cracked and caused a misfire. O2 sensor went haywire and put the car in a limp mode... I've never run out of gas, but I've heard that isn't uncommon for other people. Ignition coils went bad... Consider yourself very lucky.

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                          Sounds like you just dont do maintenence on your cars lol.

                          Speaking of ignition coil, i did have the ECU fail and stopped sending siginals to a coil... but can really include a computer failure when talking about ICE reliability vs EV?.

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                            And here I am with the strong belief that 1000Km is the range at which I’d be happy with. EVs degrade over time, and one must undercharge them to 80% on a daily basis. 1000Km also solves the road trip issue, being able to drive until you’re tired and then charge to rest. Then also, EVs would be better than gas cars and be a better deal overall.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              Sounds like you just dont do maintenence on your cars lol.

                              Speaking of ignition coil, i did have the ECU fail and stopped sending siginals to a coil... but can really include a computer failure when talking about ICE reliability vs EV?.

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                              No, I maintained my cars. What's the maintenance schedule on an intake manifold?

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                                I've driven a EV as a daily for six years now and while daily range M-F anxiety is mostly not an issue but that one day a month when your spouse tells you there's a last minute change in plans and you're running at half charge because you forgot to plug in at night and hitting a charger that's miles out of the way isn't going to work is a thing.

                                You're also going to be doing a lot of planning for trips to another city, eating into the day of fun for charging which can be more stressful.

                                Work trips where you can't get someone to drive you to the airport in your car is always fun.

                                Don't get me started on road trips, we don't take the electric vehicle because range anxiety is very much a thing when you don't know if a cold front is coming up your ass and you're mid charging stations and debating if you turn on the heat or not (spoilers there was no heat). Add to that, the battery degradation and charging stations being fewer and farther between than gas, that range anxiety will hit you on long trips and not to mention the hours it adds to your trip.

                                I'm still a proponent of electric cars but range and time are issues still.

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                                  And here I am with the strong belief that 1000Km is the range at which I’d be happy with. EVs degrade over time, and one must undercharge them to 80% on a daily basis. 1000Km also solves the road trip issue, being able to drive until you’re tired and then charge to rest. Then also, EVs would be better than gas cars and be a better deal overall.

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                                  And hence, range anxiety is overblown.

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                                  • J [email protected]

                                    I’ve never had an accident so I guess I don’t need car insurance or seatbelts.

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                                    but you just said the infrequency of an event does not determine value or importance???

                                    I guess you just realized how silly your previous comment was... good for you

                                    be sure to use the seatbelt next time you plan to have an accident

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      No, I maintained my cars. What's the maintenance schedule on an intake manifold?

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                                      Low/old oil causes higher friction and higher temperatures. And low coolant reduces how well the system keeps the engine cool.

                                      If you have one crack, thats bad luck in manufacturing defect... having two... either your really unlucky, or doing something wrong.

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                                        Low/old oil causes higher friction and higher temperatures. And low coolant reduces how well the system keeps the engine cool.

                                        If you have one crack, thats bad luck in manufacturing defect... having two... either your really unlucky, or doing something wrong.

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                                        Ford made it out of resin and it was an issue. Point being, ICE cars are mechanically more complex, and more likely to strand you due to failures that are beyond your control.

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                                          I have an ice maker at home. Most days I use maybe 5 ice cubes total to make a cold drink.

                                          However, if my ice maker could only hold 5 ice cubes max at a time, I would consider it a shitty ice maker and would be looking for a new one.

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