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What an insensitive and utterly vile post. If you understood anything about addiction, which I'll remind you is a health disorder and not a personal choice, you would be ashamed of yourself. Some of us and our families are really struggling with huge impacts to physical and mental health, our entire lives, from addictions like this. Hope posting this made you feel better about yourself tho
What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?
Cigarettes aren't the only way you can get addicted, you know. You made the connection between cigarettes and addictions, here in this post.
Also wouldn't it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?
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Don’t forget that smokers also get to ruin other people’s meals at restaurants. Not their own meals mind you - just the meals of others.
Where I live, you're not allowed to smoke in bars or restaurants.
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What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?
Cigarettes aren't the only way you can get addicted, you know. You made the connection between cigarettes and addictions, here in this post.
Also wouldn't it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?
What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?
Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.
Also wouldn't it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?
Gee, that's such great advice! Why didn't the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.
Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It's a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for "choosing" their sexuality or gender.
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Don’t forget that smokers also get to ruin other people’s meals at restaurants. Not their own meals mind you - just the meals of others.
I thought you wheren't allowed to smoke inside anymore in Germany?
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What an insensitive and utterly vile post. If you understood anything about addiction, which I'll remind you is a health disorder and not a personal choice, you would be ashamed of yourself. Some of us and our families are really struggling with huge impacts to physical and mental health, our entire lives, from addictions like this. Hope posting this made you feel better about yourself tho
Mental inconvenience takes a number of forms, one of them is nicotine addiction. Some people with more standard brains than you and I can't comprehend why we would regularly consume literal poison to feel better instead of, I don't know, watching a Disney film or running until they sweat and smell.
I have switched over to a vape and mix my own flavorless, scentless juice. I still feel like a pariah when I use it, and stick to alleys and back lots.
I truly wish vape culture hadn't had that bro moment of douche bags chucking clouds in theaters and making a fuss when imbibing indoors.
I'd be slightly less embarrassed of the pile of addictions I've become.
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Boy do I love tobacco.
I don't smoke any more, but I love the smell of nice tobacco. I was late for work the other day because a crusty old man was smoking a roll up if Dutch tobacco and I couldn't resist chatting about it.
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Absofuckinglutely not. Predatory behavior is inexcusable full stop.
Thats exactly what Im saying though
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I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone. The self righteous superior people clearly dgaf what I think and the feeling is mutual.
.... killing others by blowing smoke into their faces on the street.
Ah yes, the age old tradition of going up to a non smoker and blowing smoke directly in their faces. Fun times.
I've been a smoker for a very long time and I've never seen that happen, unless you count shotgunning cannabis, and that was always consensual.
Let's get real for just a second. What you actually mean is occasionally you catch a whiff of cigarette smoke while outside. I'm sure you don't go stand next to smoker, and I'm positive that they don't "blow smoke into your face".
Even in my backwards ass state, you can't smoke indoors in public places, so it must be outside.
If you are so concerned about your health that you think simply smelling cigarette smoke and walking away will kill you, I sure hope you never leave the house, attend a BBQ, or go camping, because you will likely be exposed to other smells just as likely to kill you as that.
I have very little empathy for people...
That much is clear
Maybe start with empathy for poor people that struggle surviving because they are being exploited, or people who are systematically suppressed
Who says I don't? Who says I don't fall into those categories myself? Having empathy for one group of people does not preclude you from having empathy for others. I've never shot heroin or smoked crack, but I feel bad for people struggling with those addictions.
I don't condone smoking indoors where non smokers live or around non smokers if they are outdoors and can't walk away for some reason, I just don't think someone should be treated as if they are human excrement simply because they are a smoker. You don't agree, that's fine as long as I'm not forced to be around you or have to listen to your sermons.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone. The self righteous superior people clearly dgaf what I think and the feeling is mutual.
There you go again with the fucking victim role and guilt tripping. Dont even need to read the rest of your bullshit. Maybe think about if your attitude plays a role in your miserable life.
Edit: I still ended up reading the rest and your way of twisting words and literally cutting my quotes to twist their meaning is truly disgusting. Any shred of sympathy I had for you with your original comment is gone. Im glad you probably dont bother many people in real life, assuming anything you wrote is true which doesnt even seem likely anymore.
Also read up on second hand smoke, because you obviously havent heard of it.
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Having to deal with the consequences of dropping a lifelong addiction most likely.
Quitting smoking fucking sucks. You don't start to notice the positive effects of quitting for weeks after your last smoke, and you don't realize until then how much the cigarettes are affecting your health. So it can really feel like you're putting yourself through hell for very little benefit. When just having a cigarette feels like it can fix all symptoms you're having now, it's hard to keep going.
I've quit smoking for a decade now, but am still a nicotine addict. I'm glad I'm not coughing up yellow phlegm and short of breath all the time, but life becomes hell and I become irrational if I haven't had my dose.
I wish I'd never started.
Wish in one hand shit in the other. See which fills up first.
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Who cares at this point no one has free health care so no longer a burden in the golden age of bare foot and pregnant. Smoke cigs. They are awsome.
sorry, i couldn't hear you over the sound of my free healthcare
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tfw you share balcony with smoking neighbour and all smoke goes to your room where you work...
It would suck if windows didn’t close.
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If I quit, I might live longer. Life is hell.
If you don’t quit, you might not die; but you could be in more pain than you are now.
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They did... and it caused most people to stop smoking. Building that social stigma was like one of the best health marketing campaigns in history.
I say this as someone who used to and still does smoke time to time.
Many people that smoke are already mentally unbalanced. Making them a shamed pariah is doing little for their mental health, it is just forcing them to hide yet another bit of their unhappiness.
Not smoking is healthier, no doubt, but the majority of people that still do it undoubtedly have enough shame going on. Self hate comes into play, as well.
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It would suck if windows didn’t close.
Not everyone has decent ventilation.
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So start smoking and you won’t even notice.
Seriously though, as a lifelong smoker I do my best to keep it from being anyone else’s problem.
I agree. There is a difference between being a smoker and being an inconsiderate dick.
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I smoked from the time I was 15, until I was 33. I got a prescription for something called Chantix that worked really well for me to quit permanently.
It worked well for a few people I knew, but one guy said it made him really depressed / suicidal.
Chantix isn’t available anymore because of something that was in it that might cause cancer, but there’s a generic form of it called varenicline that may or may not be available in your country. Ask your doctor maybe if there’s a pill that will help you quit.
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Not everyone has decent ventilation.
Yeah, I guess things would really suck for the person that only has 1 window too.
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Meanwhile idiots like me ended up vaping all day long and when I went back to cigarettes my tolerance was through the roof and I smoked more than I ever did.
There's still hope. I still chain vape, but the amount of nicotine I use is but a whisper. It's entirely a routine at this point. I'm figuring out positive actions I can do whenever I feel the need to suck on my robot dick.
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Thats exactly what Im saying though
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Womens choice of clothing doesnt excuse predators, but it still puts many in a tough situation by tempting them (not voluntarily but for them its a temptation).
It is voluntary. Being a creep is a learned behavior and can be unlearned. I'll admit it's systemic but it's our(M/Society) responsibility to change that.
Which is in no way saying the women are at fault but unwanted outcomes can be avoided by their chioce.
The sentence part after "but" is in direct conflict with thee first.
So you could live your life making sure others arent influenced in a negative way by your behavior or you could go to the limits of yoir freedom disregarding any consequences for others as long as youre on the legal side. The answer should be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but who can say where exactly. (I mean many do pretend they know, but its obviously subjective)
This should have been a separate paragraph, it's a different idea even if in context. This still let's predators off the hook by assuming their motivations and behavior are "natural" or "innate" in a way that can't change.
Theone thing humans do well is learn. It's one of our few evolutionary advantages. The "limits of your freedom" don't have to include predatory behavior if you don't identify it as part to your autonomy or self.E: pedantism, see strikethrough
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I don't smoke any more, but I love the smell of nice tobacco. I was late for work the other day because a crusty old man was smoking a roll up if Dutch tobacco and I couldn't resist chatting about it.
Dutch tobacco? the whacky kind?
