The solution to many problems
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Who cares at this point no one has free health care so no longer a burden in the golden age of bare foot and pregnant. Smoke cigs. They are awsome.
sorry, i couldn't hear you over the sound of my free healthcare
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tfw you share balcony with smoking neighbour and all smoke goes to your room where you work...
It would suck if windows didn’t close.
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If I quit, I might live longer. Life is hell.
If you don’t quit, you might not die; but you could be in more pain than you are now.
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They did... and it caused most people to stop smoking. Building that social stigma was like one of the best health marketing campaigns in history.
I say this as someone who used to and still does smoke time to time.
Many people that smoke are already mentally unbalanced. Making them a shamed pariah is doing little for their mental health, it is just forcing them to hide yet another bit of their unhappiness.
Not smoking is healthier, no doubt, but the majority of people that still do it undoubtedly have enough shame going on. Self hate comes into play, as well.
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It would suck if windows didn’t close.
Not everyone has decent ventilation.
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So start smoking and you won’t even notice.
Seriously though, as a lifelong smoker I do my best to keep it from being anyone else’s problem.
I agree. There is a difference between being a smoker and being an inconsiderate dick.
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I smoked from the time I was 15, until I was 33. I got a prescription for something called Chantix that worked really well for me to quit permanently.
It worked well for a few people I knew, but one guy said it made him really depressed / suicidal.
Chantix isn’t available anymore because of something that was in it that might cause cancer, but there’s a generic form of it called varenicline that may or may not be available in your country. Ask your doctor maybe if there’s a pill that will help you quit.
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Not everyone has decent ventilation.
Yeah, I guess things would really suck for the person that only has 1 window too.
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Meanwhile idiots like me ended up vaping all day long and when I went back to cigarettes my tolerance was through the roof and I smoked more than I ever did.
There's still hope. I still chain vape, but the amount of nicotine I use is but a whisper. It's entirely a routine at this point. I'm figuring out positive actions I can do whenever I feel the need to suck on my robot dick.
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Thats exactly what Im saying though
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Womens choice of clothing doesnt excuse predators, but it still puts many in a tough situation by tempting them (not voluntarily but for them its a temptation).
It is voluntary. Being a creep is a learned behavior and can be unlearned. I'll admit it's systemic but it's our(M/Society) responsibility to change that.
Which is in no way saying the women are at fault but unwanted outcomes can be avoided by their chioce.
The sentence part after "but" is in direct conflict with thee first.
So you could live your life making sure others arent influenced in a negative way by your behavior or you could go to the limits of yoir freedom disregarding any consequences for others as long as youre on the legal side. The answer should be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but who can say where exactly. (I mean many do pretend they know, but its obviously subjective)
This should have been a separate paragraph, it's a different idea even if in context. This still let's predators off the hook by assuming their motivations and behavior are "natural" or "innate" in a way that can't change.
Theone thing humans do well is learn. It's one of our few evolutionary advantages. The "limits of your freedom" don't have to include predatory behavior if you don't identify it as part to your autonomy or self.E: pedantism, see strikethrough
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I don't smoke any more, but I love the smell of nice tobacco. I was late for work the other day because a crusty old man was smoking a roll up if Dutch tobacco and I couldn't resist chatting about it.
Dutch tobacco? the whacky kind?
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You must be American
Yes. We are American. We’re destined to die from a gun. Who’s got time to be afraid of a plant? What is a healthcare?
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What an insensitive and utterly vile post. If you understood anything about addiction, which I'll remind you is a health disorder and not a personal choice, you would be ashamed of yourself. Some of us and our families are really struggling with huge impacts to physical and mental health, our entire lives, from addictions like this. Hope posting this made you feel better about yourself tho
It’s alright they never had to suffer from the utter brainwash advertising we had. They are brainwashed the other way. It’s probably a good thing. World used to be a smoke cloud.
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I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone. The self righteous superior people clearly dgaf what I think and the feeling is mutual.
There you go again with the fucking victim role and guilt tripping. Dont even need to read the rest of your bullshit. Maybe think about if your attitude plays a role in your miserable life.
Edit: I still ended up reading the rest and your way of twisting words and literally cutting my quotes to twist their meaning is truly disgusting. Any shred of sympathy I had for you with your original comment is gone. Im glad you probably dont bother many people in real life, assuming anything you wrote is true which doesnt even seem likely anymore.
Also read up on second hand smoke, because you obviously havent heard of it.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Once again, I'm not guilt tripping anyone. I'm just stating my opinion. If you don't think your post comes off as self righteous and superior, I'm not sure you know what those words mean.
I also never claimed to be a victim.You had zero sympathy in the first place, you said it yourself, and once again I really don't give a single fuck what you think of me. I don't know how I can make that any more clear to you.
I have read up on second hand smoke, which is why I don't smoke around other people. I rarely even see other people unless I'm shopping, and you can't smoke in stores.
If you think that the studies on second hand smoke say that simply catching a whiff of cigarette smoke every once in a while will instantly kill you, you should probably reread them. Those were about prolonged exposure in confined areas, not walking past some dude on the street.
Maybe think about if your attitude plays a role in your miserable life.
We've already established how you are perfect and completely flawless in every way. I'm sure your sanctimonious attitude contributes to a perfect life full of joy and happiness. Good for you.
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What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?
Cigarettes aren't the only way you can get addicted, you know. You made the connection between cigarettes and addictions, here in this post.
Also wouldn't it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?
lol I hope you get addicted to some to some ratchet pussy and it ruins your life
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Who cares at this point no one has free health care so no longer a burden in the golden age of bare foot and pregnant. Smoke cigs. They are awsome.
I have free healthcare
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What an insensitive and utterly vile post. If you understood anything about addiction, which I'll remind you is a health disorder and not a personal choice, you would be ashamed of yourself. Some of us and our families are really struggling with huge impacts to physical and mental health, our entire lives, from addictions like this. Hope posting this made you feel better about yourself tho
It's always a .ml account
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the amount of self righteousness and lack of empathy from some non smokers really makes me glad that I will never have to hang out with those types of people.
Youre seriously trying to guilt trip non-smokers here? Sure, addiction is horrible and some people are really struggling, but the majority of smokers I know dont give a shit that theyre actively killing others by blowing smoke into their faces on the street. Its ignorant and toxic behavior which is tolerated because of decades of brainwashing by the industry.
I have very little empathy for people who choose hurting others for their own convenience. Maybe start with empathy for poor people that struggle surviving because they are being exploited, or people that are systemically suppressed, then move on to empathy for smokers and other criminals.
I hope you get better, but your struggles dont excuse the millions of smokers actively harming their environments without a care in the world.
Would you like me to analyze your ethical decisions and judge you publicly? I am certain we can find some unethical behaviors that you partake in every day that hurt the environment and the people around you. I don’t have time in my day. It’s just a really weird thing to pick out and have a moral battle with. It’s a personal choice. It’s an addiction. There’s plenty of bad people out there. The cigarette smokers are not trying to hurt you intentionally.
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Yeah, it was fun for a while. The good thing is, so many people stopped smoking in the last few years, that smoking stopped to be this special social thing.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I never smoked, but had to hang out with smokers outside the office building at my first job, if I wanted a bit of break and chat with colleagues. I usually brought a glass of water with me.
Happy that this is not the case anymore.
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What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?
Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.
Also wouldn't it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?
Gee, that's such great advice! Why didn't the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.
Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It's a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for "choosing" their sexuality or gender.
Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.
Where did they mention addiction?
They mention cigarettes, and their bad affects on the people using them and the people around that. Stating that they are bad should not be offensive, because that is stating the facts.
If they are offended by that... IDK. That is something they have to work through themselves.
Gee, that's such great advice! Why didn't the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.
You are misrepresenting what I said. I said that to get over an addiction you first have to want it. And you say: Just wanting to stop is not enough, and I agree.
Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It's a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for "choosing" their sexuality or gender.
True, however people don't just wake up one day and be addicted. They have to take it first (willingly or unwillingly), putting a social stigma on the act of using these addictive substances, can at least prevent some people of getting accidentally addicted.
So I would be in favor of supporting people getting out of their addiction, while preventing people to get addicted, by showing what is bad about these drugs and trying to fight against the social component of "taking them makes you cool".
What are you fighting for? Finding ways of being offended?
