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      If yOu aRe nOt uNdEr cApItAlIsM It's yOuR OwN FaUlT

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        If yOu aRe nOt uNdEr cApItAlIsM It's yOuR OwN FaUlT

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        it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

        being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

        Slaves who existed before capitalism was even imagined would dream of this WaSTeD LiFe 🤪

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          it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

          being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

          Slaves who existed before capitalism was even imagined would dream of this WaSTeD LiFe 🤪

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          it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

          being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

          Hell, if you're in this situation you have immediate and convenient access to potable water in your living space. This is a level of privilege beyond almost every other human that has lived in all of history.

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            it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

            being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

            Slaves who existed before capitalism was even imagined would dream of this WaSTeD LiFe 🤪

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            Every person I've met who thinks this way has been a trump supporter.

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              it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

              being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

              Slaves who existed before capitalism was even imagined would dream of this WaSTeD LiFe 🤪

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              I am not a slave or a starving medieval peasant, therefore I should be happy to waste my life in an office generating shareholder value. Got it.

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                I am not a slave or a starving medieval peasant, therefore I should be happy to waste my life in an office generating shareholder value. Got it.

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                Save some straw for the animals, geez

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                  Save some straw for the animals, geez

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                  How is that a strawman? Sure life could be worse as you said, but life could also be a lot better. The meme takes no shots at the former claim, instead making fun of people who fail to imagine the latter. Talking about how we already live in relative luxury is also a very common deflection from arguments for why we should improve society, without actually countering said arguments.

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                    How is that a strawman? Sure life could be worse as you said, but life could also be a lot better. The meme takes no shots at the former claim, instead making fun of people who fail to imagine the latter. Talking about how we already live in relative luxury is also a very common deflection from arguments for why we should improve society, without actually countering said arguments.

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                    It's a straw man because nobody said you should be happy wasting your life away in an office generating shareholder value. It's possible to appreciate the good things we have whilst still being critical of the system we are in. I personally disagree with the other commenters implication that capitalism is to thank for these things but that's a whole other discussion.

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                      It's a straw man because nobody said you should be happy wasting your life away in an office generating shareholder value. It's possible to appreciate the good things we have whilst still being critical of the system we are in. I personally disagree with the other commenters implication that capitalism is to thank for these things but that's a whole other discussion.

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                      Well in that case I was mistaken of your intentions. As I said, it's a very common deflection.

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                        It's a straw man because nobody said you should be happy wasting your life away in an office generating shareholder value. It's possible to appreciate the good things we have whilst still being critical of the system we are in. I personally disagree with the other commenters implication that capitalism is to thank for these things but that's a whole other discussion.

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                        Usually when people call anything a luxury, the implication is that it's something to be happy about. Given that the meme is about wasting ones life away in an office generating shareholder value, I would say that that's the it here.

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                          Usually when people call anything a luxury, the implication is that it's something to be happy about. Given that the meme is about wasting ones life away in an office generating shareholder value, I would say that that's the it here.

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                          My reading of the comment was that the luxury being referred to was the fact that it's indoors, access to clean water, music etc. Nobody said slaving away for shareholder value is a luxury. My point is these are important non black and white issues and to have a proper conversation about them we need to engage with what people actually say. Otherwise what's the point of even commenting here?

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                            Yeah, poor Chinese!

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                              I guess you don't work under communism.

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                                My reading of the comment was that the luxury being referred to was the fact that it's indoors, access to clean water, music etc. Nobody said slaving away for shareholder value is a luxury. My point is these are important non black and white issues and to have a proper conversation about them we need to engage with what people actually say. Otherwise what's the point of even commenting here?

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                                The meme is about a lack of fulfillment, not of comfort. The comment by ikr muddles these two off the bat by focusing on comfort as a retort to the meme, and my reply was to intentionally follow that flawed reasoning to display its absurd conclusion. Modern comforts will not make a job fulfilling.

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                                  I mean we have it pretty good compared to most of history

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                                    I guess you don't work under communism.

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                                    Yeah, people didn't. They didn't give a shit about the "collective" farms. They worked because they were forced to and fucked it up for everyone because there was no difference between giving it your all and slacking off. Hundreds of microfarms worked better than one large collective one because they didn't think it was "ours" they thought it was "nobodys".

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                                      Yeah, poor Chinese!

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                                      People here seem pretty happy. I guess thd government should do something about the youth unemployment rate, but the average chinese I see on the street seems to be leading a more fulfilling life than the average american. People can afford rent, to go out and eat every day, and save a little, I dont know anyone back home like that.

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                                        I mean we have it pretty good compared to most of history

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                                        We probably have it pretty great compared to most of the rest of the world currently.

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                                          Yeah, people didn't. They didn't give a shit about the "collective" farms. They worked because they were forced to and fucked it up for everyone because there was no difference between giving it your all and slacking off. Hundreds of microfarms worked better than one large collective one because they didn't think it was "ours" they thought it was "nobodys".

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                                          I've read George Orwell's account of life in Catalonia during the civil war when the nation was communist, and that's not the picture he painted at all. He talked about music and art in the streets. People excited about the new economy. People who wanted to work, or to enlist as soldiers and fight the marxist-leninists

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