Time to bash Americans again
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That's why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.
No bro, I don't want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.
I keep my shit in my safe, that's it. It's not a personality.
how do you use it in a home invasion in the middle of the night if it's locked up and unloaded?
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Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.
all 37 of them
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metal detectors and xray scanning of backpacks made me feel like I was going to prison lol
I think the most security I ever had was the gates being locked between opening and closing times. This was during primary school. Britain sucks but at least it's not America.
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The truth hurts.
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Why is this a picture of grass?
That's where the fence goes
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I mean if you are there putting the last bricks in and you are standing on the north side you really don't have much of a choice.
North of the Wall!!! I want to be a wildling
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"Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.
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I think the US military only attacks school when there students aren’t mainly white
Or run by a democratically-elected leftist government.
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This was a troll account. It was a Dutch guy pretending to be MAGA to point out how arrogant Europeans are. He succeed thoroughly
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So that's part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.
Nope, Switzerland had one of the highest rates of gun suicides before measures were taken.
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"Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Wherever white people get mad at black people you hear the word “thug” thrown out a lot and i always wonder if they’re just using that word to substitute another one they’re not allowed to use publicly.
For us latinos it’s immigrant.
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"Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.
I hate the word for the reasons you've said, but I know a lot of black Americans in Portugal that refer to themselves as expats.
Feels to me that the line is drawn along economic privilege lines rather than simply race.
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honest question: then why do you own one?
I get self defense, of course, but doesn't the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture?
or am I missing something?wrote last edited by [email protected]No, you'll know gun culture when you see it. The people that put the stupid stickers all over the car, the firearm brands, the calibers, stuff like that, becomes a major part of their personality.
Like the other commenter said, you would never know that I even own a gun unless we were pretty damn close.
I don't really have a solid answer for you. I think it started growing up where my dad had guns, rifles, in the army but he was super protective of them, he wouldn't show them to us, he wouldn't let us see them at all, he wouldn't teach us about them so I was just genuinely curious. So when I moved out that was the first thing I bought.
And I hated the gun laws here, you can buy and sell guns just like you're selling a car, just do a bill of sale. There's no background check for secondhand guns. i bought my first one at a metro stop in DC area, rode the train out, guy pulled up to the metro parking lot and we traded. i mean we took pictures of each other's IDs and did a bill of sale, but beyond that, nothing.
Mine doesn't really ever come out of lockup unless we're camping or going on a long road trip. I haven't carried it in years and I think my license might even be expired at this point. I'm not scared, maybe wildlife, I'm near the Appalachian Mountains. I don't carry it around to intimidate anybody, or try to use it for coercion. But I guess the fascination has just always been there since it was withheld growing up.
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Again? When did everyone stop?
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I mean income directs it a bunch but some communities are just very insular and like to keep to themselves.
I agree, that’s why I went with typically, but many aren’t allowed to live near the future “expats” so that property values aren’t negatively impacted.
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I can’t imagine going to school like that bro.
Like is it scary and you always wonder if some lunatic is going to come and shoot it up or no?
A lot of this is overblown really. A few things:
- The vast majority of school kids in the US will never deal with an active shooter situation.
- 43% of school shooters in the US are themselves active students
- Only 20% of school shooting perpetrators had no affiliation to the school, meaning that ~37% of shooters were former students, teachers, or parents.
- From 1999 - 2023 there were a total of 131 school shootings, but in 2024 alone there were a reported 332 school shootings.
- These are some terrible numbers, but statistically it's a rare thing. There are approximately 130,000 K-12 schools in the US and ~75 million students per year. If we assume all schools have the same chance of having a school shooting (they don't) they would have a 0.2% chance that your school will have a shooting that year or 4% chance that in your k-12 years that you would be at a school shooting.
When people talk about school security in the US they often don't consider how litigious and risk adverse the US is. You don't lock doors, build fences, and hire security guards to protect from such a small risk chance, if they actually cared there would be a greater emphasis on mental health. No, they do these things to minimize risk, lower insurance rates, and ward off lawsuits.
The defense writes itself,
"Hey, you can't sue us for your child's trauma, we did everything we reasonably could to ensure that a shooter couldn't get into the school. We built a fence, we locked the doors, we made the kids wear clear plastic book bags, we used a metal detector, we hired a guard, we expelled kids who made threats, and we called the police on people who aren't allowed to be here. If a kid then sneaks a 3D printed plastic gun on site and traumatizes the students it's not the school systems fault."
The US is crazy litigious, especially if a government entity is involved and someone might get a pay day. In my area a high school girl and some similarly aged boys ran away from school while at recess to a forest a mile or two off site. The girl then said she was sexually assaulted by the two boys, called her mom and was picked up and taken to the hospital directly (never came back to the school). The school had reported the girl missing, but only found out about the sexual assault after the mother filed a police report and the police reached out. The school cooperated with the police and reached out to the girl and her mother asking if she was ok or there was anything they could do, but the mother refused to answer their (the schools) phone calls or cooperate with the police. A year later the mother sued the school, the school system, the municipal government, and the police each for several million dollars for allowing her daughter to run away from school and for not protecting her from sexual assault in an offsite location. This lawsuit went on for over a year before the judge dismissed the case.
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A lot of this is overblown really. A few things:
- The vast majority of school kids in the US will never deal with an active shooter situation.
- 43% of school shooters in the US are themselves active students
- Only 20% of school shooting perpetrators had no affiliation to the school, meaning that ~37% of shooters were former students, teachers, or parents.
- From 1999 - 2023 there were a total of 131 school shootings, but in 2024 alone there were a reported 332 school shootings.
- These are some terrible numbers, but statistically it's a rare thing. There are approximately 130,000 K-12 schools in the US and ~75 million students per year. If we assume all schools have the same chance of having a school shooting (they don't) they would have a 0.2% chance that your school will have a shooting that year or 4% chance that in your k-12 years that you would be at a school shooting.
When people talk about school security in the US they often don't consider how litigious and risk adverse the US is. You don't lock doors, build fences, and hire security guards to protect from such a small risk chance, if they actually cared there would be a greater emphasis on mental health. No, they do these things to minimize risk, lower insurance rates, and ward off lawsuits.
The defense writes itself,
"Hey, you can't sue us for your child's trauma, we did everything we reasonably could to ensure that a shooter couldn't get into the school. We built a fence, we locked the doors, we made the kids wear clear plastic book bags, we used a metal detector, we hired a guard, we expelled kids who made threats, and we called the police on people who aren't allowed to be here. If a kid then sneaks a 3D printed plastic gun on site and traumatizes the students it's not the school systems fault."
The US is crazy litigious, especially if a government entity is involved and someone might get a pay day. In my area a high school girl and some similarly aged boys ran away from school while at recess to a forest a mile or two off site. The girl then said she was sexually assaulted by the two boys, called her mom and was picked up and taken to the hospital directly (never came back to the school). The school had reported the girl missing, but only found out about the sexual assault after the mother filed a police report and the police reached out. The school cooperated with the police and reached out to the girl and her mother asking if she was ok or there was anything they could do, but the mother refused to answer their (the schools) phone calls or cooperate with the police. A year later the mother sued the school, the school system, the municipal government, and the police each for several million dollars for allowing her daughter to run away from school and for not protecting her from sexual assault in an offsite location. This lawsuit went on for over a year before the judge dismissed the case.
Dude, don't start bring out statistics sticking up for america in the school shooting department. I can't figure out your reasoning to defend American on this topic.
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Dude, don't start bring out statistics sticking up for america in the school shooting department. I can't figure out your reasoning to defend American on this topic.
You don't seem to have read my post....
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You don't seem to have read my post....
I read it. You're saying generally, "it's not as bad as it looks."
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I read it. You're saying generally, "it's not as bad as it looks."
That's not the take away you should be getting by any means. Yes, school shootings are more common in the US than the rest of the world, but they are statistically very very rare in the US. The reason why schools in the US react so dramatically for such a rare event is because they are trying to protect themselves from liability and lawsuit, not because they are trying to protect students or help troubled kids.
