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Time to bash Americans again

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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

    Dude, don't start bring out statistics sticking up for america in the school shooting department. I can't figure out your reasoning to defend American on this topic.

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    You don't seem to have read my post....

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      You don't seem to have read my post....

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      I read it. You're saying generally, "it's not as bad as it looks."

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      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

        I read it. You're saying generally, "it's not as bad as it looks."

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        That's not the take away you should be getting by any means. Yes, school shootings are more common in the US than the rest of the world, but they are statistically very very rare in the US. The reason why schools in the US react so dramatically for such a rare event is because they are trying to protect themselves from liability and lawsuit, not because they are trying to protect students or help troubled kids.

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        • G [email protected]

          Who the fuck emigrates to Europe as a hardcore American fascist? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

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          I’m an American living in the EU, and I’m surprised by that. All the other American immigrants I’ve met so far have been opposed to Trump and Republicans generally. I always figured the conservatives were likely to be buying into AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt propaganda and would thus be uninterested in moving to another country.

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            I'm not sure yall get the joke. It's funny cause 13- 17 year old angsty males in the us have unlimited access to military grade weapons. These bitch ass losers, I mean kids, then take these arms, designed to take out isis and sudam and murder a bunch of 5 year olds with them. Do you get it now?? It's hilarious ! ♥️♥️😂 🤩 ♥️ 🔥🔥🔥

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            • J [email protected]

              Yeah this confuses me to no end. I thought they made America great last election?

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              Trump made it great, but Biden and woke already made it so un-great that the greatness hasn’t all trickled down yet.

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                I hate the word for the reasons you've said, but I know a lot of black Americans in Portugal that refer to themselves as expats.

                Feels to me that the line is drawn along economic privilege lines rather than simply race.

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                There’s also this level of like, still identifying as being primarily of the country they’re from, like a rejection of assimilation into the place they’ve moved to. I’m not saying that’s inherently good or bad, but, it’s an interesting dynamic, and an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

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                  I'm not sure yall get the joke. It's funny cause 13- 17 year old angsty males in the us have unlimited access to military grade weapons. These bitch ass losers, I mean kids, then take these arms, designed to take out isis and sudam and murder a bunch of 5 year olds with them. Do you get it now?? It's hilarious ! ♥️♥️😂 🤩 ♥️ 🔥🔥🔥

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                  No, no, no. These weapons pale in comparison to basic infantry in the modern military. Not only are they way overkill for anything a law abiding citizen should ever need for recreation, they would also be useless in the case of a 2nd Amendment related coup of the corrupt government.

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                    And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora's box.

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                    Too late now unfortunately. The people who'd need to give up their guns, will never do so voluntarily. The actually responsible gun owners might give theirs away though.

                    It's media, education and the political system that need to change. It won't.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      But since US has the issues, you should lock guns away.

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                      Aye, but when all the lunatics already have guns and you remove the guns from the responsible citizens, is that putting people in more or less danger?

                      I think it's too late at this point to solve this one via gun control.

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                        Nope, Switzerland had one of the highest rates of gun suicides before measures were taken.

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                        Gun suicides or suicides in general?

                        Because suicides will always be an issue. Guns just make it easier. How many mass shootings have the swiss had though? Switzerland has a "List of mass shootings" article on Wikipedia. The US has a "ListS of mass shootings" category. The US list for 2018 alone is significantly longer than Switzerland's list starting with 1905. I realize that Switzerland has a smaller population, but the per capita rates have a large discrepancy too. Something like a 9x difference.

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                          Because a gun is cheaper than mental healthcare.

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                          It's more than just mental healthcare. American society is just broken in so many ways.

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                            I mean some people typically called immigrants do that too

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                            When brown, they are inmigrantes anda those are ghettos. When white, they are expats in expat communities.

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                              I've always assumed it depends on what your context is. If your perspective is the country that the immigrant is from, then they would be an expat. If you are in context of the other country they are an immigrant.

                              Ie

                              "My friend is an expat who went off to The Netherlands."
                              "My friend is an immigrant that came here from The USA."

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                              Emigrant. That's the kind of migrant who leaves a country. They'd be an immigrant in their new country.

                              But, IMO there's a difference with an expat. An expat is often someone who isn't moving permanently, and as a result is often not trying to integrate into their new country.

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                                Because we don't have regular mass shootings in schools because we don't give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world...or the USA in 1792.

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                                we don't give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show

                                Erm, wut?

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                                  When brown, they are inmigrantes anda those are ghettos. When white, they are expats in expat communities.

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                                  Typically "expat" communities are much wealthier. Poor white immigrants live in pretty shit conditions too and the areas are considered ghettos, at least historically

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                                    There’s also this level of like, still identifying as being primarily of the country they’re from, like a rejection of assimilation into the place they’ve moved to. I’m not saying that’s inherently good or bad, but, it’s an interesting dynamic, and an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

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                                    an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

                                    Especially when a lot of the same type of people will throw a fit if an 'immigrant' doesn't do everything they can to assimilate.

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                                      No, no, no. These weapons pale in comparison to basic infantry in the modern military. Not only are they way overkill for anything a law abiding citizen should ever need for recreation, they would also be useless in the case of a 2nd Amendment related coup of the corrupt government.

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                                      Are you saying an AR-15 can't take out an attack helicopter at 2000m??

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                                        "Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.

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                                        There is technically a difference in the definition, but mostly people use it exactly as you're describing.

                                        I've really had to catch myself when I notice myself using it.

                                        But honestly it's so expected that people can get confused when you call yourself an immigrant (and you aren't doing it to make yourself a martyr somehow).

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                                        • V [email protected]

                                          Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn't your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?

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                                          Well, if this wasn't a troll account, it would probably be for work. The US has a military presence in the Netherlands, and we have a lot of corporate cross-over, especially in the tech industry, like the photo lithography involved in making CPUs. It isn't that weird.

                                          This is s troll though

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