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The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

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    What I do recall was one guy asking very specific questions about how much we would be able to customize genitals, and whether sex would be fully interactive with visuals of full penetration.

    And while none of those things are wrong per se, the general vibe of asking about all of those things was very weird and pervy.

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    Hm maybe my memory of the post is fuzzy but that is more pervy than I recalled. Still gets to the larger point though about how we talk about violence in graphic detail with no self-consciousness but can't do the same for sexuality.

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      It's certainly what the majority of the genre became with the advent of mobile gaming, as with so many other simple puzzle games. But the original Bejeweled and Puzzle Quest were both excellent and huge hits, and were complete games before the microtransaction garbage that came later.

      It's a nice genre for relaxing and turning off your brain, similar to a Tetris or a Bust-A-Move. I know there have to be titty and microtransaction filled variants of both of those, does it invalidate them as puzzle game genres?

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      I played peggle on wow flight paths for hundreds of hours. Sad and fantastic lol.

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        One other side point that came to mind after the main post.

        We're so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is "wrong" or "sad". But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.

        *^okay,^ ^no^ ^non-consensual^ ^violence.^ ^I^ ^may^ ^have^ ^slapped^ ^Lyssa's^ ^dick^ ^around,^ ^but^ ^she^ ^requested^ ^it.^

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        And then you usually get "But the sex isn't realistic!!!"... yeah? Neither is the violence, unless you are frequently the Doomslayer or something?!

        Like, how is that even an argument. How can violence in games be preferrable to sex?!

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          If you're open to a platformer, the only explicitly adult game I've tried is FlipWitch. The gimmick is that you can change your sex, with certain obstacles only able to be passed through by a specific sex. You also have clothing that can only be worn by each sex, and certain NPCs won't interact unless you're wearing certain items. It's a solid metroidvania, and while it's not going to blow you away, I still enjoyed my time with it.

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          The music is really good too!

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            I've always been open to adult only games, but for the vast majority there are only two basic types:

            • Visual Novels - Everything about these is fine. They vary from basically just a graphic novel to a full on RPG.

            • Nude Puzzles - Various cheap-ass puzzles with nude images as the prize.

            I want, like, a real game but with full adult only content. These exist, but are hard to find. And a lot of those I've found aren't finished, never will be finished, and/or just suck. It doesn't even have to be the focus. Just imagine if when you got a hooker in GTA or some other game where brothels might exist, you got to see more than a fade to black/car bouncing around.

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            Yeah the exceptions are rare, and then many like HuniePop 1 and 2 or Subverse lean intentionally into overdone slapstick.

            (That being said HuniePop I can't recommend enough, easily the best match-3 out there completely ignoring the porn parts)

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            • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              Thanks for the warning. I'd started playing because I needed a distraction from some hard IRL stuff, so that's good to know. It was nice that when I fired up Being a DIK from the same bundle, they straight out ask you at the beginning if you're going through shit right now, and gently suggest the game may be rough for you if you are.

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              when I fired up Being a DIK from the same bundle, they straight out ask you at the beginning if you're going through shit right now, and gently suggest the game may be rough for you if you are.

              Considering the dev’s previous game, Acting Lessons, that warning is worth taking seriously. That game has a fantastic story, but it has some rough shit go down. Although I will say that by the end of season 1 of Being a ΔΙΚ I don’t think there had been much “rough if you’re going through some shit” stuff. I haven’t played season 2 yet.

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                What I do recall was one guy asking very specific questions about how much we would be able to customize genitals, and whether sex would be fully interactive with visuals of full penetration.

                And while none of those things are wrong per se, the general vibe of asking about all of those things was very weird and pervy.

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                And? What is the answer to these questions? Asking for a friend ...

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                  I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                  Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                  Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                  Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                  Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                  And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                  The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                  For vnovels, check out Katawa Shoujo. It has a great storyline and characters, and it's free!

                  If you're looking for a platformer I'd recommend Flipwitch - Forbidden Sex Hex

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                    I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                    Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                    Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                    Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                    Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                    And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                    The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                    I also claimed the games to support the cause! I chose Treasure of Nadia to play on a whim and totally got sucked into the story. The sexy scenes are a mixed bag but generally enjoyable. After completing it, I had to buy the other games from that developer!

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                      The biggest issue with adult content in games is that it limits your market to adults that want that content. Which is already small to begin with. And you often can't advertise the same way, which limits your audience further. You only find out about them through word of mouth or through places like Lemmy.

                      From the standpoint of the developer, your ROI is likely to be very small. I think that's why VN are the most popular form of adult games, since they are easier to make than full games.

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                      Its inherently a gamble. Yes, it limits you to that audience (which is increasingly villified by christofacists and the influencers who "don't want people to think they are gooners"). But it also makes you the king OF that audience.

                      Subspace is a great example. It had an incredibly vague and over ambitious crowdfunding campaign and it did gangbusters. Because people are hungry for a horny game that is actually a game. That said, it feels like other devs realized that was a thing and the patreon-style sites are now the main focus and discoverability went to zero.

                      Which is why I think the next big step is a blogsite that actually covers these without feeling like you are just reading a guy's wank diary (... which we kind of are but it is nice to not think about that). Its the same problem onlyfans et al have. The biggies keep getting bigger but there is almost zero way to find out about the newbies.

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                        I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                        Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                        Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                        Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                        Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                        And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                        The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                        I too claimed the games to support the cause. I randomly chose Treasure of Nadia to start and found myself really enjoying the game and story. I just finished it last week and went on to buy the developers other titles (⁀ᗢ⁀).

                        I'll have to give the other titles a try soon!

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                          Hm maybe my memory of the post is fuzzy but that is more pervy than I recalled. Still gets to the larger point though about how we talk about violence in graphic detail with no self-consciousness but can't do the same for sexuality.

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                          more pervy

                          Showing examples of your point, even 🙂

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                            And? What is the answer to these questions? Asking for a friend ...

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                            I was pretty surprised that they did have genital customization in the game, no on the other two questions though.

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                              I've always been open to adult only games, but for the vast majority there are only two basic types:

                              • Visual Novels - Everything about these is fine. They vary from basically just a graphic novel to a full on RPG.

                              • Nude Puzzles - Various cheap-ass puzzles with nude images as the prize.

                              I want, like, a real game but with full adult only content. These exist, but are hard to find. And a lot of those I've found aren't finished, never will be finished, and/or just suck. It doesn't even have to be the focus. Just imagine if when you got a hooker in GTA or some other game where brothels might exist, you got to see more than a fade to black/car bouncing around.

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                              Last game I played that fit this bill was 7 Sins

                              This was back in the 2000s and I was super into The Sims. I still think the gameplay holds up well.

                              Its not graphic with nudity but definitely a adults only game.

                              Edit:

                              The entire concept of the game is experiencing the 7 sins. Greed, lust, sloth, anger etc.

                              Gameplay link

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                                For vnovels, check out Katawa Shoujo. It has a great storyline and characters, and it's free!

                                If you're looking for a platformer I'd recommend Flipwitch - Forbidden Sex Hex

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                                Man, you're mean. You can't recommend that without at least a warning of the box of tissues that you'll need nearby. You'll be responsible for water stains on desks everywhere.

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                                  Welcome to the club! Theres tons of Japanese eroge that became anime like Fate. Just because theres sexy time, don't mean the story aint a banger either!

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                                  I've still got the original visual novels sitting on my backup drive, somewhere. I played through the major first storyline, but hadn't gotten around to UBW and... oh boy, heaven's something? Definitely was a great read, even after starting with the anime.

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                                    Yeah nah there is no gameplay there its pure coomer shit. Match 3 puzzle game, thats not a genre the only games that use that has their core gameplay are designed to be scams.

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                                    Maybe the match 3 stuff, but there are a lot of 'adult' games that are beyond that. Go play The Last Sovereign and tell me it isn't better than all the final fantasies, I dare you.

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                                      I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                                      Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                                      Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                                      Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                                      Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                                      And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                                      The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                                      I despise visual novels.

                                      They lack the good writing of a proper novel.

                                      They lack the art work a comic can provide.

                                      They aren't games, but are for some reason sold as one.

                                      They a sub-par mix of things other mediums do significantly better.

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                                        I despise visual novels.

                                        They lack the good writing of a proper novel.

                                        They lack the art work a comic can provide.

                                        They aren't games, but are for some reason sold as one.

                                        They a sub-par mix of things other mediums do significantly better.

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                                        There are novels that don't measure up to the writing of visual novels.

                                        There are comics that don't measure up to the art of visual novels.

                                        There are video games that are less engaging than visual novels.

                                        Broad generalizations like this are so useless. It's okay that you play one or two visual novels and they weren't for you. I don't particularly like visual novels either, but to discredit an entire genre because of it is just ignorant. I've played some visual novels that were excellent and pushed the boundaries of video games. See Slay the Princess and Doki Doki Literature Club. I'm playing Date Everything right now, it's not exactly innovative, but I'm having fun with it.

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                                          One other side point that came to mind after the main post.

                                          We're so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is "wrong" or "sad". But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.

                                          *^okay,^ ^no^ ^non-consensual^ ^violence.^ ^I^ ^may^ ^have^ ^slapped^ ^Lyssa's^ ^dick^ ^around,^ ^but^ ^she^ ^requested^ ^it.^

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                                          Please note that this is mostly an American thing, in European TV and books we have naked people and (not too explicit detail in TV, books differ) sex.

                                          Some of us are always wondering about this. Something 18+ might be sex or gore related.

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