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The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

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  • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

    Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

    Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

    Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

    Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

    And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

    The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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    Modding is a way to add some adult content to some games. For example, Bethesda's games have a very active modding community.

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      We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”.

      Not just in games. In all media. You bring to mind a great quote from George R. R. Martin.

      “I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”

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      https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/

      I think onscreen chemistry peaked in Casino Royale. Now it all feels clinical/sterile.

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        Its inherently a gamble. Yes, it limits you to that audience (which is increasingly villified by christofacists and the influencers who "don't want people to think they are gooners"). But it also makes you the king OF that audience.

        Subspace is a great example. It had an incredibly vague and over ambitious crowdfunding campaign and it did gangbusters. Because people are hungry for a horny game that is actually a game. That said, it feels like other devs realized that was a thing and the patreon-style sites are now the main focus and discoverability went to zero.

        Which is why I think the next big step is a blogsite that actually covers these without feeling like you are just reading a guy's wank diary (... which we kind of are but it is nice to not think about that). Its the same problem onlyfans et al have. The biggies keep getting bigger but there is almost zero way to find out about the newbies.

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        Which is why I think the next big step is a blogsite that actually covers these without feeling like you are just reading a guy's wank diary

        There is a site that I frequent but due to this community's instance rules, I won't post it here.

        The site is more of a forum/community than a blog but it's pretty good.

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          Its inherently a gamble. Yes, it limits you to that audience (which is increasingly villified by christofacists and the influencers who "don't want people to think they are gooners"). But it also makes you the king OF that audience.

          Subspace is a great example. It had an incredibly vague and over ambitious crowdfunding campaign and it did gangbusters. Because people are hungry for a horny game that is actually a game. That said, it feels like other devs realized that was a thing and the patreon-style sites are now the main focus and discoverability went to zero.

          Which is why I think the next big step is a blogsite that actually covers these without feeling like you are just reading a guy's wank diary (... which we kind of are but it is nice to not think about that). Its the same problem onlyfans et al have. The biggies keep getting bigger but there is almost zero way to find out about the newbies.

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          Do you mean Subverse? Searching for Subspace is just redirecting me to Subverse, but maybe I'm missing it

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            What I do recall was one guy asking very specific questions about how much we would be able to customize genitals, and whether sex would be fully interactive with visuals of full penetration.

            And while none of those things are wrong per se, the general vibe of asking about all of those things was very weird and pervy.

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            And while none of those things are wrong per se, the general vibe of asking about all of those things was very weird and pervy.

            Unshackle your mind. Reject the puritanism bonk and embrace the horniness tentacles.

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            • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

              Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

              Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

              Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

              Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

              And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

              The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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              Streisand effect.

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              • carighan@piefed.worldC [email protected]

                And then you usually get "But the sex isn't realistic!!!"... yeah? Neither is the violence, unless you are frequently the Doomslayer or something?!

                Like, how is that even an argument. How can violence in games be preferrable to sex?!

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                Part of the actual answer to that question is that, while violence is often loud and public (and sometimes government sanctioned on massive scales), sex is something that is usually done in private, intimate settings without observers.

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                • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                  I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                  Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                  Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                  Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                  Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                  And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                  The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                  I wish there were more games that had NSFW stuff, but not as the main focus. BG3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher, etc all have nudity, but the sex scenes are short, cropped, and half assed because they are embarrassed.

                  There needs to be quicktime events, better cinematics, and werewolves (BG3, Elder Scrolls, Witcher) during erotic scenes. Bring back A/O games. Many of these shouldn't be even remotely aimed at anyone below 18 anyways.

                  Hell, the last genuinely fun game with kink in it was Saints Row 3, and that was for comedic effect.

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                  • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    One other side point that came to mind after the main post.

                    We're so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is "wrong" or "sad". But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.

                    *^okay,^ ^no^ ^non-consensual^ ^violence.^ ^I^ ^may^ ^have^ ^slapped^ ^Lyssa's^ ^dick^ ^around,^ ^but^ ^she^ ^requested^ ^it.^

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                    It was wild being raised by my mother who didn't mind if I saw consensual sex, because I should eventually have sex, but restricted all violence because ideally I'll never see violence in person.

                    I have no idea how good this is a philosophy for raising children. Sample size is too small.

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                    • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                      Yeah coomer games are similar to mobile games. Theyre puzzle games that are designed to be extremely easy to make players feel good. They are technically still puzzle games just bad ones.

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                      There are tons of great adult games out there that aren't "puzzle games". You are being very ignorant here.

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                      • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

                        I've always felt that puritanical stigmatization of sex and sexuality have really fucked us up psychologically as a species.

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                        Puritanism comes down to “happiness is bad.“

                        Not just sex; dancing, music, poetry, novels, games, decorations. Anything which takes joy in life and expression is forbidden.

                        Suffering while alive is seen as the proper punishment for being born human - seeing people and nature as beautiful and divine is legitimately blasphemy to these people.

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                        • zoomboingding@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                          For vnovels, check out Katawa Shoujo. It has a great storyline and characters, and it's free!

                          If you're looking for a platformer I'd recommend Flipwitch - Forbidden Sex Hex

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                          Flipwitch is a fantastic little Metroidvania that I can't talk to my "normal" gaming friends about.

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                            I remember a quote from a famous porn actor "nacho vidal".

                            "I'd rather have my kids playing with "fake plastic penises" around the house than playing with fake plastic firearms."

                            I'm not comfortable with the idea of kids playing with sexual toys. But it makes me feel something weird that I'm not more weirded out by kids playing to kill with fake guns.

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                            I'm pretty sure a majority of people touched a real penis before touching a real gun.

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                            • classyhatter@sopuli.xyzC [email protected]

                              Modding is a way to add some adult content to some games. For example, Bethesda's games have a very active modding community.

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                              Ai, loverslab comes to mind. Used that to kink the hell out of Sims back in the day.

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                                I wish there were more games that had NSFW stuff, but not as the main focus. BG3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher, etc all have nudity, but the sex scenes are short, cropped, and half assed because they are embarrassed.

                                There needs to be quicktime events, better cinematics, and werewolves (BG3, Elder Scrolls, Witcher) during erotic scenes. Bring back A/O games. Many of these shouldn't be even remotely aimed at anyone below 18 anyways.

                                Hell, the last genuinely fun game with kink in it was Saints Row 3, and that was for comedic effect.

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                                quicktime events

                                Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I'm not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload...

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                                  quicktime events

                                  Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I'm not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload...

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                                  Imagine the debuff that blueballs would inflict because you missed the quicktime event

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                                  • jeff@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                    There are novels that don't measure up to the writing of visual novels.

                                    There are comics that don't measure up to the art of visual novels.

                                    There are video games that are less engaging than visual novels.

                                    Broad generalizations like this are so useless. It's okay that you play one or two visual novels and they weren't for you. I don't particularly like visual novels either, but to discredit an entire genre because of it is just ignorant. I've played some visual novels that were excellent and pushed the boundaries of video games. See Slay the Princess and Doki Doki Literature Club. I'm playing Date Everything right now, it's not exactly innovative, but I'm having fun with it.

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                                    That's a load of crap. Visual novels are such an incredibly low bar on literally every front, if you made a comic or a novel that's worse than a VN you'd have been actually trying to out-shit VNs.

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                                    • tomenzgg@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                                      Not directly to your point but your overall experience just reminds me: we really lost something when the sexual liberation movement was largely erased. People so often dismiss it because we're conditioned to dismiss taking sex seriously (outside of a very narrow and specific context) but there's a lot we lose from that.

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                                      Was it erased? We are more comfortable with porn than ever (which I wouldn't say is okay, but definitely not prudish), and after the jews, the biggest boogie man out there is the gender lobby.

                                      I say we're in the next phase, and moderators (Visa, Mastercard) need to buckle up for what's coming.

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                                        Imagine the debuff that blueballs would inflict because you missed the quicktime event

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                                        Imagine if the game knew you save scummed and gave you a blue balls debuff.

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                                        • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                          I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                                          Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                                          Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                                          Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                                          Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                                          And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                                          The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                                          Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.

                                          It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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