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Every year I install this sunsail to shade my ac unit.

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    Shading the condenser unit keeps it cooler and increases it's efficiency and helps keeps my electricity costs down. The sail is high enough and mesh like so that it doesn't trap the hot air. In fact it creates a slight wind tunnel effect. The shade it provides lasts during the hottest part of the day and a tree helpfully blocks the sun for the remainder. The unit is never in full sun this way. Keeping the weeds and other debris away from the unit so that it gets good airflow and cleaning the condenser every year also help with the units efficiency.

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    Interesting. I should see how much sun my units get.

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    • machinist@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

      This is interesting. Gut says that it does increase efficiency. Thing I'm questioning is by how much?

      Anybody got numbers or a good educated guesstimate?

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      https://www.aceee.org/files/proceedings/2002/data/papers/SS02_Panel1_Paper24.pdf

      Shading the compressor can help but it can also hurt.

      Those units can draw enormous amounts of air. Unless the shading covers a very wide area around the compressor, it's likely to mostly pull in air that wasn't shaded and is still at normal ambient temperature.

      If the shading obstructs airflow, it can reduce the efficiency of the unit.

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        https://www.aceee.org/files/proceedings/2002/data/papers/SS02_Panel1_Paper24.pdf

        Shading the compressor can help but it can also hurt.

        Those units can draw enormous amounts of air. Unless the shading covers a very wide area around the compressor, it's likely to mostly pull in air that wasn't shaded and is still at normal ambient temperature.

        If the shading obstructs airflow, it can reduce the efficiency of the unit.

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        Nice source! Thank you kindly.

        Planting trees and shrubs close by a condenser may actually reduce system
        efficiency due to impedance of effective air movement. We conclude that any savings
        produced by localized AC condenser shading are quite modest (<3%) and that the risk of
        interrupting airflow to the condenser may outweigh shading considerations. The preferred
        strategy may be a long-term one: locating AC condensers in an unobstructed location on the
        shaded north side of buildings and depending on extensive site and neighborhood-level
        landscaping to lower localized air temperatures.

        Tracks with the gut feeling. Shade will only marginally improve efficiency but constricting flow definitely hurts. Units are best installed on the North/Northeast sides of houses in the northern hemisphere.

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          IIRC, my AC guy said the vertical throw of those units is far higher than that, I wonder if that translates into it sucking in more of it's own air (less efficient, higher cost)? Then again, UV seems to destroy everthing...

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          This is what I came up with. I'm not seeing any heating of the siding it's hard to tell on the sail as it's in direct sun. Also the unit is just under the corner of the sail so air can definitely get up and around. There's about F10* difference between the siding in direct sun and the condenser.

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          • machinist@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

            Nice source! Thank you kindly.

            Planting trees and shrubs close by a condenser may actually reduce system
            efficiency due to impedance of effective air movement. We conclude that any savings
            produced by localized AC condenser shading are quite modest (<3%) and that the risk of
            interrupting airflow to the condenser may outweigh shading considerations. The preferred
            strategy may be a long-term one: locating AC condensers in an unobstructed location on the
            shaded north side of buildings and depending on extensive site and neighborhood-level
            landscaping to lower localized air temperatures.

            Tracks with the gut feeling. Shade will only marginally improve efficiency but constricting flow definitely hurts. Units are best installed on the North/Northeast sides of houses in the northern hemisphere.

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            If your unit is a heat pump, are you then paying for that savings in the winter when it doesn't benefit from any solar warmth to help heat your house? If so, I wonder if it is a relatively balanced outcome or if one of the seasons has a bigger impact. I imagine it depends in part on which season is more extreme in your area.

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            • I [email protected]

              I have an emporia energy meter. While I can't answer your question exactly, I have sprayed mine with a hose during the hottest part of the day and watched the power usage drop a decent amount. So I imagine as long as the shade wasn't too expensive it'll pay for itself.

              Sprayed it down with the hose again. Pic added showing energy usage drop. Doesn't last long from water, but does show it not working as hard when cooler.

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              Thank you for that visual! And for the new item to research for my home (the meter). 😁

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              • atheartengineer@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                https://github.com/emporia-vue-local/esphome

                https://digiblur.com/2024/03/14/emporia-vue-gen3-esp32-esphome-home-assistant/

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                I just want to say that I heart you. Like a lot. 💙

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                • S [email protected]

                  If your unit is a heat pump, are you then paying for that savings in the winter when it doesn't benefit from any solar warmth to help heat your house? If so, I wonder if it is a relatively balanced outcome or if one of the seasons has a bigger impact. I imagine it depends in part on which season is more extreme in your area.

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                  I would think so. Another factor would be dropping leaves in the fall and winter so less shade, a good thing, in this case.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    "All this"

                    Its like 2 eye bolts, some rope, and a mesh sail lmao

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                    If you spend all your time chasing pennies, the dollars are going to float on by. The deeper research says it's better to make sure the unit is clean and maintained than the silly sail.

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