Big Balls Clapped
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The tolerant left. Btw he was attacked for stopping a carjacking
I would not believe a single word he, or Drumpfs police say about the matter.
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New name is EB. Empty Ballsack.
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I dont judge you for beeing happy about the attack. I am judging a uploaded photo of a person laying on the floor, probably unconscious, in his own blood, with the intent of making fun of him
I'm not happy per se, I'd rather this guy not be interested in stealing people's personal data for quiet resale to private corporations.
I'm glad he's faced consequences, as we all should expect if we do wrong by society.
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Neutrality in case of your personal behavior to a person.
I dont mean to not fight fascism or taking advantage of fascist.wrote last edited by [email protected]You're gonna be so upset when you hear what they did to Mussolini.
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If every teenager who gives himself shity names is losing his dignity, there wont be much dignity left in the world to fight for
Edit: And before you understand this wrong. Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back. But still, as I said in another comentary: In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.wrote last edited by [email protected]Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back.
As long as no one treats him with disrespect. Can't have that.
In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights.
He's not starving in Gaza. He can still use the restroom that matches his gender. He's not being kidnapped and held in a concentration camp in a swamp or El Salvador. He has healthcare. Oh noes, he talked shit and got hit and people are mocking him on the internet. Call Geneva! His precious fashy rights have ALL been taken away from him!
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Ok, I think I dont understand your message completly.
The sympathy he gets
compared
to the sympathy for the opponents of the genocide (gaza I assume?)
On lemmyHe got none, they got some and rapidly increasingly more? Or whats your point there?
And how is this centristic?
He got none
He got yours
they got some and rapidly increasingly more
Yeah, lemmy's centrists have to pretend they don't love genocide for its own sake now that trump is president.
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He got none
He got yours
they got some and rapidly increasingly more
Yeah, lemmy's centrists have to pretend they don't love genocide for its own sake now that trump is president.
I dont know how you define "sympathy*, but no, i have no sympathy for him
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Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back.
As long as no one treats him with disrespect. Can't have that.
In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights.
He's not starving in Gaza. He can still use the restroom that matches his gender. He's not being kidnapped and held in a concentration camp in a swamp or El Salvador. He has healthcare. Oh noes, he talked shit and got hit and people are mocking him on the internet. Call Geneva! His precious fashy rights have ALL been taken away from him!
You can fight somebody with respect and without losing your morale standards.
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But you'll sure leap to their defense...
Depends on, but yeah. In some cases. I would defend even him
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Just in case you weren’t aware, you’re not enlightened, you’re naive. You’ll be asking politely for fascism to stop as it tears down everything around you. And the worst part? You’ll look around at the chaos and go “at least I stuck to my morals”. Maybe you have nothing worth fighting for - I do. And I’ll fight in anyway that gains me ground, while you grovel for validation that you were a good little Samaritan.
Again, its not about fighting. Its about how you fight and what is necessary or just revenge
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Mmm. cept this ain't exactly losing "all moral standards", just your moral standards, which the vast majority of people never held in the first place. Why are you obsessed with the idea that your way is the morally correct way? Where does that come from?
Im not obsessed that im correct.
I think that uploading a picture of a teenager that is laying in his own bload (probably unconscious) after he got beaten up is wrong. Especially if its inteded to mock him.
Now I am discussing this matter on lemmy.
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You can fight somebody with respect and without losing your morale standards.
You may respect him.
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No, there are no metal gymnastics needed. There are some basics rights that should always be respected.
Even if your fighting the big-time-nazi-scum-arseholes.wrote last edited by [email protected]Wait, calling them mean names is depriving them of their dignity! How dare you! Don't you know those fascists have feelings???
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Wait, calling them mean names is depriving them of their dignity! How dare you! Don't you know those fascists have feelings???
Its more like be placed in the pillory to be publicly shamed
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Its more like be placed in the pillory to be publicly shamed
wrote last edited by [email protected]... And that's a problem?
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... And that's a problem?
Depends on the society you want to live in.
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Depends on the society you want to live in.
wrote last edited by [email protected]A preachy and moralizing one where we protect the feelings of fascists from being hurt, where preserving "dignity" is more important than fighting back against the people literally killing us, one where legal adults are to be given leniency on their crimes (which again, include enabling countless deaths) due to their youth and status?
Yeah, I think I'm gonna give that society a pass. But feel free to go found the promised nation of Apologia-Land, I'm not about to be so crass as to force my own morality on you. You seem unpleasant enough I wouldn't take a baton round for you (go learn about how your really vague concept of "dignity" works in the real world) but man, I'm not above pointing out what a bootlickin' line of thinking you've go going on here. War is hell, dude, even culture ones. War reporting is the only way to actually confront people with that reality.
Nobody in this here thread thinks that it's good we got to this point, but this kind of thing is what's required to start getting us the hell out of here. It's deeply, deeply depressing your head is so far up your own morals that you can't even consider your position beyond the single "dignity" issue.
I know negative reactions make us entrench, but come on. How much of a stretch would it be, say, to push the narrative that you're just a fascist that's worried their clapped picture is gonna show up on here, being celebrated? I don't think that's what's happening, but it sure isn't a hard line to sell given how beautifully your zealously unyielding defense of the fascists lines up with how the fascists are defending themselves.
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A preachy and moralizing one where we protect the feelings of fascists from being hurt, where preserving "dignity" is more important than fighting back against the people literally killing us, one where legal adults are to be given leniency on their crimes (which again, include enabling countless deaths) due to their youth and status?
Yeah, I think I'm gonna give that society a pass. But feel free to go found the promised nation of Apologia-Land, I'm not about to be so crass as to force my own morality on you. You seem unpleasant enough I wouldn't take a baton round for you (go learn about how your really vague concept of "dignity" works in the real world) but man, I'm not above pointing out what a bootlickin' line of thinking you've go going on here. War is hell, dude, even culture ones. War reporting is the only way to actually confront people with that reality.
Nobody in this here thread thinks that it's good we got to this point, but this kind of thing is what's required to start getting us the hell out of here. It's deeply, deeply depressing your head is so far up your own morals that you can't even consider your position beyond the single "dignity" issue.
I know negative reactions make us entrench, but come on. How much of a stretch would it be, say, to push the narrative that you're just a fascist that's worried their clapped picture is gonna show up on here, being celebrated? I don't think that's what's happening, but it sure isn't a hard line to sell given how beautifully your zealously unyielding defense of the fascists lines up with how the fascists are defending themselves.
I'll understand your point. And to make it clear, again, fascism needs!! to be stopped.
But is not about "should we fight" but more "how should we fight?"
Because if you (imho) break some basic rules, you wont be a fighter against facism but just another arsehole, just with good intentions.
So:
If violence against other people is necessary to fight fascism, why is it needed to humilate the beaten up enemy? Personal needs, like the feeling of revenge, might, superiority? Terrorizing other enemies? -
I'll understand your point. And to make it clear, again, fascism needs!! to be stopped.
But is not about "should we fight" but more "how should we fight?"
Because if you (imho) break some basic rules, you wont be a fighter against facism but just another arsehole, just with good intentions.
So:
If violence against other people is necessary to fight fascism, why is it needed to humilate the beaten up enemy? Personal needs, like the feeling of revenge, might, superiority? Terrorizing other enemies?wrote last edited by [email protected]Just so long as it's stopped on your terms, though, right?
I keep listing off the reasons for content like this, and you keep projecting your own perceptions onto how other people are reacting to it. Presenting it as "humiliating the beaten up enemy" is dishonest. "Publicizing that allegiance to fascist ideals isn't tolerated" is an accurate summary of what's happening here. Sure there's an undeniable aspect of dunking on the smug little shithead, seeing him like this fills me with a primal pleasure (and I'm just sad those girls didn't have a knife), but you're presenting that the ideal world is one where publicizing the defeat of actual fascists is uniformly unjustifiable. It's liberal evangelism, with a less painfully cringy name - you just pushing your idea of what the "correct" way to behave is onto everyone else and refusing to acknowledge that everyone else has just as much right to their opinion as you do. That's why we have to punch fascists, actually! Because if we just accept their right to hold their (monstrous) opinions, those opinions will never die.
It's the classic paradox of tolerance (though that whole concept has taken on a tedious life of it's own with the politically semi-literate...)
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He took all of our personal data and gave it to plantir so they can destroy our democracy and terrorize brown people. He was probably out soliciting underage girls for prostitution when he got knocked out. On a karma scale he deserves to get knocked out every day for the rest of his life.
I'm no big balls sympathizer but this is a terrible summary of what he did and didn't do wrong
