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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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  • S [email protected]

    They support the alt-right by being overly idealistic and failing to partner with liberals and more moderate leftists to make progress.

    Divide and be conquered.

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    Partnering with liberals is idealistic. They always stab you in the back at the first opportunity.

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      Fair enough

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      #149

      You can't say fairer than that, oh drat!

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      • facedeer@fedia.ioF [email protected]

        Reddit is able to do global IP bans. The Fediverse is not able to do that because there's no "global".

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        I have an idea of how to fix that. Other fedi Devs are trying similar things too.

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        • S [email protected]

          They support the alt-right by being overly idealistic and failing to partner with liberals and more moderate leftists to make progress.

          Divide and be conquered.

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          #151

          Look what you made me do!

          I wouldn't have considered genocide, if you weren't so idealistic!!

          If you had only partnered up with the people who only car about money, we could have returned to the status quo.

          Mate, the goal is to be idealistic. No one is perfect, but we want to strive for what's the best and hope we reach there some day.

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          • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

            On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

            • Be kind

            • Ask people what they think, and why

            • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

            • Engage sincerely

            • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

            • Make this small space worth being in

            A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

            Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

            The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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            It's extremely hard to be charitable online, when you have instances like these:

            • https://map-wiki.com/index.php/List_of_active_instances_of_map_fediverse
            • https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Pediverse
            • https://fediverse.wiki/wiki/Poast
            • https://truthsocial.com/

            I'm sorry that I cannot β€œbe kind” to the intolerant.

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            • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              Thanks for showing up to be an example Davel

              Davel is one of the ones who knows exactly what they are supporting, but choose to because they don't act in good faith.

              Now kindly fuck off until next time Davel. πŸ˜›

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              #153

              This is an example of what being nice is for the average Lemmy user

              Jesus Christ you people can't even comment without going ballistic at each other over the slightest thing

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              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                well the good news is that everybody - and that includes the US - creates psyops all the time, so that makes it fair.

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                This is Eglin Air Force Base checking in. fed

                Most addicted city (over 100k visits total)
                Eglin Air Force Base, FL
                Oak Brook, IL
                South St. Paul, MN

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                • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  Sorry but right wingers aren't welcome here.

                  If (Republicans/Tankies/Fascists) want any voice here they can go get fucked.

                  If they acted in good faith and were capable of processing reality they wouldn't identify as such.

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                  If you think political stances can be adequately expressed along a single line, then you're not much better I'm afraid. Engage with the nuance, friend, it'll build understanding and be better for all of us.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    I mean

                    It's been happening for the 99.9% of human existence

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                    #156

                    We also didn't have modern medicine for 99.9% of human existence. Want to return to that?

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                    • ? Guest

                      I'm sorry big daddy Trump cucked you but everyone with the ability to read Project 2025 could tell you this was going to happen.

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                      #157

                      Bro can't you even follow the premise of the thread for like 2 comments

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                      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                        i hope the quality stays up in here and we don't enshittify like reddit facebook and every other bigger internet network.

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                        I can't speak to the quality outlook, but from what I understand about enshittification, it typically requires a self-serving entity like a corporation whose interests are not in alignment with its customers/consumers/userbase. In some of Mr. Doctrow's writings, he indicates that federating cans be a "circuit breaker" for enshittification.

                        In a well federated platform, when one node begins to act counter to its users, the users can easily move nodes/instances. This is one of the reasons why there needed to be a law to allow phone number portability. Email is similar, but only if you own your own domain. Look for Cory Doctrow's writings on BlueSky for more examples.

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                        • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          Sorry but right wingers aren't welcome here.

                          If (Republicans/Tankies/Fascists) want any voice here they can go get fucked.

                          If they acted in good faith and were capable of processing reality they wouldn't identify as such.

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                          If you know what you are arguing and argue with tankies/Nazis in good faith, nine times out of ten they will eventually lose their temper and make fools of themselves. There is no need to be hostile to begin with, they just defeat themselves basically because their ideologies are totally flawed (kinda like in real life).

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                          • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                            Partnering with liberals is idealistic. They always stab you in the back at the first opportunity.

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                            I disagree. Socialists often tactically partner with liberals on shared goals, despite the risks. Knowing that, when forced to choose, liberals have historically sided with fascists, because fascists will never upend capitalism.

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                            • K [email protected]

                              Great post.

                              To add to this, not resorting to calling others tankies or Russian bots when you have differing opinions, especially around politics.

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                              Sometimes they literally just are. Not seen it on Lemmy but on Reddit I definitely interacted with users, age under 1 year, all suspiciously pro-Putin. It's rare and I'm looking for it, but still.

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                              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                                On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                                • Be kind

                                • Ask people what they think, and why

                                • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                                • Engage sincerely

                                • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                                • Make this small space worth being in

                                A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                                Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                                The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                                Unless you're a republican or other type of nazi. Then you can absolutely go all the way to hell.

                                Tolerance got us here.

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                                • W [email protected]

                                  The last time I went to Reddit, I felt like everyone was trying to pick a fight, and would jump on me for any tiny reason.

                                  No point being part of a community like that, the whole place is a dumpster fire, but if everyone is either trolling or turning on each other, it's much worse.

                                  I hope as Lemmy gets more popular, it doesn't inherit those problems.

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                                  I swear Reddit has bots/trolls/AI designed to argue and rile you up to increase engagement. We see it in reposts/titles, why not in the comments?

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    I mean

                                    It's been happening for the 99.9% of human existence

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                                    Same with smallpox.

                                    And we're capable of better now.

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                                    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      Sorry but right wingers aren't welcome here.

                                      If (Republicans/Tankies/Fascists) want any voice here they can go get fucked.

                                      If they acted in good faith and were capable of processing reality they wouldn't identify as such.

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                                      Don't apologize.

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                                      • F [email protected]

                                        I notice tons and tons of hostility in comments. And I think it's from people jumping to the worst possible conclusion.

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                                        I knew that would happen, but you're not wrong πŸ˜…

                                        As I've alluded to, there's a lot of justifiable anger about the state of the world, and you can see that hurt reflected in people's immediate response. The feelings driving that "conclusion jumping" valid and understandable, even if I don't think it's productive

                                        There is no easy way to cope with fascism on your doorstep, or taking over your home and threatening to throw you out of it 😞

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                                        • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

                                          Well, I certainly do appreciate seeing people like yourself making an active effort to bring some sanity back to the web. Keep it up!

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                                          Thank you friend, I really appreciate that!

                                          Take care! ❀️

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