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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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  • ? Guest

    Unless I know the other person has the same intent to respectfully listen and try to understand rather than argue I won’t engage in any sort of political discussion. Polarizing opinions have been completely normalized online and it’s literally ruining society.

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    I really want a better formalized framework for argument/discussion of a topic that either participant can feel safe in. Currently, we have courtrooms, our old schools have Debate Clubs, but I'd want something far easier to pick up on that allows for time to research/validate discussion points.

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      Did you not see the part where I actually commented myself?

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      Thank you for commenting! I agree too, it is conversation that makes a place a place, not headlines and articles handed down to silent readers.

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      • ? Guest

        I just hope people won't turn it into another 4chan

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        I mean, there is kind of already 4chan-like spaces on the fediverse, they are just mostly off in their own corner because nobody else wants to deal with childishly incomplete visions of how moderation should work in a community to keep the most vulnerable people safe.

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        • rhoeri@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          But if someone didn’t search your comment history, they wouldn’t know from context, that you seem to enjoy telling others what they should and shouldn’t be posting and judging them for being obnoxious and insulting while doing exactly that elsewhere.

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          Funny you complain about me trying to police what people post, while you report me and my comment to silence me

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          • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

            On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

            • Be kind

            • Ask people what they think, and why

            • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

            • Engage sincerely

            • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

            • Make this small space worth being in

            A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

            Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

            The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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            Fuck you!

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            • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

              some people have never caught a vibe in their life and it shows

              Lmao. And yeah, we actually have tangible evidence to support that idea Erin kissane has done a lot of incredible research work on how to effectively design the fediverse and support people in navigating it and one of the earlier things she did was interview people who left Mastodon after having bad experiences and collate that data-

              A lot of people's reasons is that when they joined they were met with hostility. It plays a huge role in people's experiences here, and even just from a purely pragmatic perspective it's REALLY important

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              I feel like this conversation is slipping into equating "makes fediverse grow faster" to "good".

              Maybe most people need to have an initial experience where they get pushback for behaving the way they did somewhere else?

              That is of course a dangerous rationalization to apply, as it can be used for any kind of shitty treatment of people, but there is also a similar danger to assuming that whatever will bring people in the fastest is best.

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              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                • Be kind

                • Ask people what they think, and why

                • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                • Engage sincerely

                • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                • Make this small space worth being in

                A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                ngl this is such a toxic community. The Nazi thing is definitely part of the problem -- we live in an age of "soft fascism" so of course we have our fists up and we see nazis everywhere. Honestly I think most of the nazis are on twitter or truth social though, they don't come to lemmy so much. Hmm, don't assume that someone espousing an (1) conservative-looking belief is a nazi maybe?

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                • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                  The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                  On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                  • Be kind

                  • Ask people what they think, and why

                  • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                  • Engage sincerely

                  • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                  • Make this small space worth being in

                  A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                  Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                  The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                  it's hard to want to use this platform when nearly every post i've seen after just downloading the app is "conservative" and "fascist". this app is filled with some absolute zombies

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                  • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                    The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                    On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                    • Be kind

                    • Ask people what they think, and why

                    • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                    • Engage sincerely

                    • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                    • Make this small space worth being in

                    A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                    Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                    The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                    When I see small, I see potential. More people know each other which fosters genuine relationships and understanding, ingredients missing from the toxic environments of the big social networks.

                    My ex used to call me a very small dude with a big city attitude. She didn't mean it as a compliment, but I took it as one.

                    The fediverse is just a beautiful place to be you. It feels calm, relaxed, intellectual and full of supportive people. It's a refreshiong alternative to the sprawling and sometimes impersonal nature of vast social networks.

                    One thing we should all agree on, we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

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                      So all your saying is don't engage with bots (even though it's fine because bots can get you information quickly), and that you can't ignore negative people online.

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                      I said don't engage with spam bots. And no I can't fully ignore baseless negative comments when I see them. They still register in my brain. I would need to have a filter in my brain or eyes that blanks them out. I wish I had one. Because they affect me even if they aren't directed at me. Not in the same way but more in the sense that when you see a mother hitting her child on the train you feel compelled to say something. If I don't I feel a sting and it doesn't sit well with me. Because I care about others in general. Not implying you don't. I know not everyone is a helpless child but a lot of people are mentally not in a state where they have the ability to deal with this stuff myself included sometimes. That's also why I try to be kind to strangers on the internet in general.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        This place is becoming very Reddit, if you post anything that deviates from someone’s beliefs they call you names and insult your intelligence. So many people can’t have a debate or discussion without jumping to personal attacks and hate. It’s really disheartening. I love political debate but there’s no such thing anymore, only name calling

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                        You sound exactly like the kind of person I want in my community:
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                        Check the sidebar to see if it suits you too!

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                        • thcdenton@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                          Everyone's been really nice as long as I don't touch anything political - then it becomes a fart sniffing smug fest.

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                          You sound exactly like the kind of person I want in my community:
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                          Check the sidebar to see if it suits you too!

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Funny you complain about me trying to police what people post, while you report me and my comment to silence me

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                            I didn’t report you bud. Is it possible that maybe you’re just insufferable enough to annoy several people at once?

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                            • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                              I'm very familiar with and agree with the Nazi bar metaphor. At no point have I advocated letting Lemmy be a Nazi bar. And we don't exactly have many fascists here compared to other platforms, Lemmy is almost exclusively leftists.

                              Being kind to your fellow lemmites is not making this platform a Nazi safe haven, it just makes it a social space actually worth spending time in.

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                              I think you’re wasting your breath at this point. This McCarthyite’s views aren’t going to move an inch, and virtually no one else is going to see this conversation, because this thread is buried under the fold and the post is a day old.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                It was evidently a joke, ffs why is it necessary to explain this?

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                                Because I tried to make it semi believable. Because bored.

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                                • U [email protected]

                                  I'm not resorting to that.
                                  I'm not saying that.
                                  I'm saying that the idea that voting Republican is inherently racist, is wrong.
                                  This really isn't that complicated.

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                                  You are incorrect. The republican party is the party of bigotry and cruelty. To vote for them is an explicit endorsement. Adults are accountable for their allegiances and their actions, and we have had decades to learn.

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                                    You are incorrect. The republican party is the party of bigotry and cruelty. To vote for them is an explicit endorsement. Adults are accountable for their allegiances and their actions, and we have had decades to learn.

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                                    that's wonderful
                                    /s

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                                    • emperor@feddit.ukE [email protected]

                                      I'm a member of the Church of Bill & Ted.

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                                      Most excellent church to be part of imo

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                                      • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                                        On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                                        • Be kind

                                        • Ask people what they think, and why

                                        • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                                        • Engage sincerely

                                        • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                                        • Make this small space worth being in

                                        A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                                        Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                                        The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                                        Sometimes being kind doesn't necessarily mean being nice.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          Fuck you!

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                                          No, fuck you!

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