Spotify to raise prices in September
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
spotify pays me half a cent per stream, the profit margins for them must be fucking insane. and the music sounds like shit. I'd much rather people pirate it than support these leeches
if you want to support artists you like, buy the music, ideally on bandcamp. if you do have to steam it, Deezer at the very least won't vandalize the audio
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
Friendly reminder that your “legally acquired” library of FLAC files never raises its subscription prices!
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Ugh, yeah I haven't considered that. We do have prime, but we're really close to getting rid of it. We don't watch Prime Video because it feels ridiculous to navigate and everything seems like an addon they want you to pay more for. I'd assume music is similar.
No addons that I know of, but they do an annoying thing where they change which specific version/release/album of a song is available, so your playlists end up missing songs even though the song itself is still available and you have to correct the playlist.
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Just saying; cancelling Spotify and changing to Qobuz takes five minutes. Sound quality is amazingly better, the curated recommendations are done by human beings that love music, and 'just works' with everything that Spotify does. (For us, anyway.) It's French, rather than Norwegian-American like Tidal is, if you're trying to stop spending money on everything US at the moment, too.
wrote last edited by [email protected]As much I despise Spotify, I'm trying out Qobuz and it's just not really it.
No folder organisation for playlists or albums.
No Linux application.
No lyrics.
No support for smart speakers.
No information linking to artist tours and merch.
No dedicated classical music app.
Generally lacking when it comes to non western artists.
Prides itself on providing high quality music, yet still only has lower quality masters for some artists compared to Apple Music, Tidal, and even Spotify.
I want to love it, like the way it loves and respects the music industry, with it's special magazine etc, but it's just not it.
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now I don't want to be that person but I'd like to give artists some money somehow. Like I dislike AI as it rips people off - there is a (difficult) middle line to tread
I buy merch or direct where I can. I generally pirate older stuff or stuff I would not pay for or cannot find anywhere. I got a rip of dogma and I wll buy the4k to encourage a sequel.
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spotify pays me half a cent per stream, the profit margins for them must be fucking insane. and the music sounds like shit. I'd much rather people pirate it than support these leeches
if you want to support artists you like, buy the music, ideally on bandcamp. if you do have to steam it, Deezer at the very least won't vandalize the audio
What do you think about Qobuz as a musician?
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There is a ReVanced version of Spotify, for people who didn't already know. Block ads and get premium features for free: https://revanced.app/
(There's also YT Music ReVanced)
I heard the ReVanced patching stopped working recently. Is that not the case anymore?
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I heard the ReVanced patching stopped working recently. Is that not the case anymore?
Not sure cause I use YT Music ReVanced instead for the larger music selection.
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Can't I just go with piracy
This is more convenient than piracy.
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
ive been using apple music for years, mainly like how for edm it tends to have highquality recorded live sets for all djs, and they are seperated instead of being one long continuous track, like youll get
- song
- song2/song3
- song4
- song5
- song6/song7/song8
Most convenient way to listen to them and get all the track names.
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
anything to sustain the hateful joe roegan podcasts on the platform.
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Not that im aware of, sorry. There is a Windows based spotidown software, but no Linux. Spotidown is a web based service normally, so you could definitely use it in Linux. I actually downloaded all my music from it using my phone!
For Linux you can use ZSpotify. It runs in the command line, just use a burner account to run as in zspotify because it's against their TOS of course, and might get you kickbanned. It also requires premium, but you only need it for a day at most, in order to run the download. Then you can cancel.
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I've been using a cracked yt music since the Spotify crackdown. I miss my playlists often :^(
must be hard paying 5 bucks for an exporter :^(
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What bubble?
the modded app chad bubble
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the modded app chad bubble
Wrong assumption
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This is more convenient than piracy.
Having the files locally is more convenient though
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Friendly reminder that your “legally acquired” library of FLAC files never raises its subscription prices!
Yep. Hooray for self hosting!
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Re: Transferring, I bought a 1TB sd-card for my phone and use Syncthing to transfer music from desktop to phone.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nowadays people say it's advanced stuff for powerusers, but just a decade ago this was the way for everybody: download audio to your computer, sync some of it to mobile devices, listen on the go. Everybody did it, OSs had dedicated software that got activated as soon as you plugged the device in etc.
I hate the "convenience factor" or "non-technical user" arguments.
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That's definitely a nice feature for sure but getting Jellyfin to even recognize the album/songs means they all need to be properly labeled and filed correctly and that some database somewhere needs to have that album's metadata available which can be real hit or miss. SoulSeek seems to be decent for labeling and allows you to choose who you're downloading from but its still a clunky mess at the end of the day.
I'm all for self hosting as much as possible but for me personally its just much more convenient to use a streaming service for music, and these days I find myself listening to podcasts the most which aren't going to be available on the high seas (nor would I bother if they were because I'm not going to listen to them again).
Not trying to convince you in particular of anything, but for anyone who may be interested in switching to a different podcast app, I'd recommend trying Antennapod.
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There are a lot of reasons for this but mostly because music streaming has been so popular that it wiped out the market for music. Its also a huge pain in the ass to sort and organize music when nobody follows a standard when they rip music so it makes automating things a lot harder as well.
I have several thousand songs I've downloaded over the last 25 years but even with modern tools like MusicBrainz Picard or Lidarr, there's no good way to organize your collection. You wind up with a bunch of singles or oddball songs from a compilation album, from a sampler, or you download an album and half of the songs come from the US version while the other half is from a UK version of the album and the uploader forgot to include a bonus track that comes on that version. Its just a huge mess that you dont see with movies and TV because apart from things like a "Director's Cut" or "Extended Version," you know what you're getting when you download them.
Additionally, playback isnt easy either. Are you going to manually transfer hundreds of files to your phone? Stream from your home media server to your phone and use a bunch of bandwidth? You're getting tired of 30% of your songs so are you going to go through your collection one by one and erase them?
There's a huge convenience factor for services like Spotify. With movies and TV the convenience factor definitely favors the self-hosted side of things.
I'll weigh in since I started hosting my own subsonic server.
I dropped lidar because, like you said, its full album based and doesn't play well with partial collections. I dont want to collect music albums, I want to listen to music. I've not found a good solution for it yet, but I don't even think I even need it. Once I get music, I tag the files with a desktop app which uses musicbrains for data and then drop the files on a SMB share. Navidrome picks them up and makes them available for streaming in 2 seconds.
Bandwidth is free and file storage space is cheap. Any convenience I gained from spotify is lost when music gets removed from it. Most recently it was king gizzard who removed half their library from spotify and I actually purchased some of their albums from bandcamp before. I own the mp3s already, but used spotify for convenience. Now I host them myself. Now I'm in control.
Obviously though, I'm the odd man out. Not everyone will be able to do this. But if I can, I will. And since I can, I do.
