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  • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

    one data point is missing, all hope of computing the true average is lost. resort to standard deviation of the mean.

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    Only one point? age is not asked in the signup form

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      people seem immature or something?

      It's more about general toxicity and too quick to judge (edit: which I guess counts as immature), but I gotta say it has gotten better, likely due to said users slowly getting banned.

      I noticed multiple times that the person I was arguing with was suddenly removed by moderators.

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      One of the coworkers quickest to get kinda yelly about his opinions at work was a genx guy (older than me) who had very strong "classical liberal" opinions as well as the typical belief that he was being logical, not emotional, as he raised his voice while talking to us about policies he didn't agree with. He also had the typical misogynistic view that he was rational while women were emotional. One time he and I were getting a little heated in a shared discord chat and a mutual friend who was the admin muted both of us.

      I told the friend something like "fair, you did try to change the subject and we ignored you, my bad." The older guy got super pissed someone controller his speech and he left the discord forever.

      I've also seen my uncle get butthurt that I tried to meditate a discussion between him and my sister (she requested my help because he and my aunt would just both say their side against her and not let them talk.) I mostly just stopped them from interrupting each other and asked them to let the other person speak, and I did it both to my sister and my aunt and uncle.

      They later complained about being told what to do in their own house.

      While young people can be impulsive and judgy, I find that age does not always fix that. The people it doesn't fix get entitled and think their age justifies their beliefs and that they're automatically wiser than you.

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      • F [email protected]

        Wow. I'm 44 and I remember the switch from seven digit dialing to ten digits but we already moved past four digits in my area before I was born. Unless you're talking about the prefix being the same for the whole city, like everything started with 262-XXXX so you only had to remember the four at the end?

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        Oh yes, for clarity, the first 3 digits were the same for everyone, so we didn't have to think about them.
        Haha, well after the official change from 4 to 7 digits.

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        • D [email protected]

          20 is old? Rip me then I must be a skeleton.

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          I'm 35 and seem to find people older than me on here fairly often. So I don't feel on when I'm on here, until I stand up.

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            Average here feels like 40+

            Even me being 20+, I feel like a kid interrupting adults talking lolz

            I read a lot of "back in my day, there weren't smartphones" comments whenever the post talks about technology and smartphones, and I feel so left out. I mean, Smartphones have been a part of most of the life I remember. Can't really remember the world without smartphones.

            Idk what I'm doing here, but reddit banned Tor, so I have no where else to anonymously ask weird questions and rant about life.

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            I was probably older than you are now when you were born. It's been interesting (in the ancient curse sense of the word) to witness firsthand a world without internet slowly becoming online, advancing, then decaying into the corporate-run AI slop hellscape we're seeing today.

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              back in my day, there weren't smartphones

              We of the fabled Oregon Trail Generation had the unique experience of an analog childhood and an adulthood in the digital hellscape we all know and love.

              So when we wandered off into the woods for hours, or even once I could borrow a car and head over to a friends' place? Completely unreachable. The only exception was the house phone at a friend's place if we were there.

              When I was in college, Wi-Fi was just becoming popular. The equivalent to walking down the sidewalk with your face in your phone was the couple grad student TAs who were busy or nerdy enough to walk between buildings holding their laptop open in front of them. Wi-Fi was not built in of course. It was a PCMCIA card sticking out of the side.

              When we were home or in our dorms, we didn't sit on our phones, we sat on our PCs! And now decades later I've transitioned back to sitting on my PC at home and it's great, lol.

              My first personal cell phone of any kind was my dad handing me down his old work phone when I finished college and moved a couple hours away. It was a Motorola Startac motherfucker! Look it up and be jealous!

              It's funny because I'm only in my mid 40s and have very little gray hair. I don't feel like an old, but I have absolutely hit the point of the "back in my day" attitude. I usually don't actually say anything unless I see a good joke in it, because that would be cliched and obnoxious.

              I bet there's something about being the age where you could be a grandparent. There's something pretty damn wholesome about watching people who are young enough to be your children having their own families and careers and stuff. We had our kid about a decade later than we wanted, so I think my son gets to benefit from me being half chill grandpa and not 100% frantic young parent.

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              Never heard the term Oregon Trail Generation before but immediately knew what it meant. That's a great name.

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                Do me a favor and look up the word "ageism".

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                I take it you haven't interacted with many young people since the pandemic

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                  I remember when I created my first lemmy account on fediverse on lemmy.ml when I was like 15 or 16. 20 years old now, I'm in the elderly group...

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                  • 007ace@lemmy.ca0 [email protected]

                    Oh yes, for clarity, the first 3 digits were the same for everyone, so we didn't have to think about them.
                    Haha, well after the official change from 4 to 7 digits.

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                    Ah, gotcha

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                      In my generation Reddit is associated with the basement dweller pseudo intellectual, so I'm hesitant to mention lemmy as a "better reddit". Most of what my generation uses is instagram and Tiktok

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                      • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                        That's not really true anymore.
                        There is multiple different instances now. I can use bluesky without using bluesky's servers.

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                        I can run my own federated relay and AppView servers now?

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                          I can run my own federated relay and AppView servers now?

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                          You can.
                          Relay's are less expensive now, it's about 24 a month.

                          app.wafrn.net is a tumblr thing with atproto support.

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                            20 is old? Rip me then I must be a skeleton.

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                            The whole Internet is club penguin apparently.

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                              Is the average age of a social media user really that young? Are very young adults and legally speaking children the driving force behind the base of social media? Are even modestly older individuals not willing to try and engage with this developing type of medium?

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Do me a favor and look up the word "ageism".

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                                Idunno if it counts as ageism when they're talking about stupid behavior among people with minds that are factually, biologically, not finished developing. Same reason it isn't ageist to say "ten year olds are not allowed to drive cars because they aren't smart enough to do it responsibly"

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                                • I [email protected]

                                  Watch out! At this rate it’ll feel like enshttfied Reddit by week 5

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                                  Are you under the opinion that Spez is going to buy out all of the mom's basements and make Lemmy have a public offer?

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                                    Eh, don't sweat it. I'm 41, and I still find myself feeling the same way when my manager is talking.... and he's younger than me. I've been told you reach a point where you just don't care anymore but my supervisor is 52 with two grown children and says she still gets that feeling from time to time, so who knows how true it is.

                                    Now for the "get off my lawn" portion of the reply. I can remember in 1991 my aunt was working for a legal firm and running documents around for them, they needed instant contact so they paid big bucks to have a mobile phone installed in her car. It cost a ridiculous amount per minute to talk on. One day she was talking me to McDonald's and I asked why she had a phone in her car since she couldn't plug it in, after she explained it to me I asked if I could call my dad, she said yes but make it quick. She dialed his number at work and handed me the phone. When he answered I blurted out "hi dad I'm calling from Aunt Juanita's car! Have to be quick, bye" and before she could stop me I hung up the phone.

                                    She called him back to apologize and let him know everything was ok, then handed the phone to me so my dad could lecture me about phone etiquette and tell me to be good for Aunt Juanita.

                                    Also I remember being excited to get to go to the school library to play Oregon trail on the green screen computer and having to swap out 5 inch floppy disks throughout the game to move to the next part.

                                    Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to take some ibuprofen as all this typing is aggravating my joints. LoL.

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                                    5 1/4 inches, you heathen. I'm closing in on 50. I am beginning to understand really old people who just let the young ones talk and don't take their advice. Stuff you're supposed to be doing has changed so much, that it is tempting to just do whatever you've been doing all your life. It'll just change again, so why bother.

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                                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                                      i wish there was a useable german instance for the general public.

                                      discuss.tchncs.de is great but as the name says, rather for techy people

                                      feddit.org is borderline unusable garbage between political shit-takes (constant bickering and non-constructive arguments) and generally a very non-open mood, it feels to me.

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                                      Yeah it's hard to get people to join when you explain how instances work and then immediately follow up with "never ever use [list of instances] because they oppose democracy and want the west to nuke itself."

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                                        Is the average age of a social media user really that young? Are very young adults and legally speaking children the driving force behind the base of social media? Are even modestly older individuals not willing to try and engage with this developing type of medium?

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                                        Kids and trendy young people are on tiktok and Instagram and do short video clip based social media.

                                        The people who grew up with the internet being a place where you type and read things to be social, are here and places like here.

                                        I think folk just prefer what they know, like if you grew up with loud and bright video clips being the normal way to interact online, you'd probably not want to switch over to reading and typing- which probably also feels like more effort to these people than just performing for a camera.

                                        Same likely goes for us text based social media people but in reverse.

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                                        • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                          The whole Internet is club penguin apparently.

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                                          The pool is closed because of AIDS

                                          Wait that was Habbo.

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