A small tax imposed on plastic bags led Orthodox Jews to lasting hostility against measures to protect the environment, a study found. They see policies against plastic as elite contempt
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The ultra-Orthodox community … use disproportionate amounts of disposable kitchenware
Is this because it’s kosher? I remember once a family member was going to host an ultra-orthodox person and had to figure how to cook for them. Everything got cooked in tin foil because that’s fresh and new and won’t be contaminated. I wonder if the disposable kitchenware is the same thing.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm don't know any ultra-Orthodox but do have several friends/family that keep kosher, and all of them are satisfied with just keeping two sets of dishes (although some just have one set and are satisfied that washing them count).
The disposable dishes, cooking in foil, and such comes up when they visit someone like me who does not maintain a kosher kitchen (and even then, only one family actualy cares enough; but, as I said, they are not ultra Orthodox)
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I mean I see the point that people used to live without these things but I’m not sure how much it matters. Any of us could be exhorted to give something up and it would be a poor consolation to say “people lived without xyz for centuries!”
Medieval times are hardly some kind of healthy baseline everyone should be prepared to return to. Much though we may all be just about to.
wrote last edited by [email protected]absolutely! it’s the “need” that i have issue with. we need to protect the environment from plastic. they don’t need to reduce their burden by washing a few dishes the next day
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Orthodox Jewish families managed to do just fine without plastic for thousands of years.
These ones think they need to destroy the environment instead of learning to wash.
Orthodox Judaism is only a couple hundred years let alone a couple thousand. It's a modern practice and it's ultra orthodox subsect is barely older than scientology.
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Don't forget the eruv circling Manhattan so they can ignore other Sabbath rules wholesale while going about their days.
wrote last edited by [email protected]"There'a a warmth in the house the minute you light the candles," she says, "because you're rushing, rushing, rushing, making sure all the lights are on, making sure the candles are in there, making sure all the food is cooked. ... Then you just light the candles and just like let go of everything."
This reads like the compulsion of the Godspoken on Path from Xenocide.
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need these things to adhere to their religious and cultural prohibitions
i guess orthodox jews didn’t exist until the ~60s if the tools to practice their religion weren’t available before then… i always assumed they were around much longer than that! /s
also, thanks for the explanation!
i always assumed they were around much longer than that! /s
Not even a joke, but orthodox Judaism is an invention of modern times, and ultra orthodox Judaism didn't come about until the early 1900's and was popularized until after WW2.
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Have microplastics been declared non-kosher?
They're everywhere, i'm not sure that's even physically possible.
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absolutely! it’s the “need” that i have issue with. we need to protect the environment from plastic. they don’t need to reduce their burden by washing a few dishes the next day
They don’t need to do 90% of the shit that they do, but “it’s their culture” and everything.
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See, this is how I know religious people are full of shit. "God is all-seeing, all-knowing, and all-powerful! Anyway here's one of a couple simple tricks we do to get around his rules."
It's not really about fooling god. The rules they are following amount to an ancient health and safety manual, and also employer/employee relations. Theyve gotten a little carried away over time, that's why loopholes, same as OH&S bullshit today
