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      Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

      If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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        No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

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        If I’m outside the house and pulling weeds and a vampire walks up and I told them to come on in and motion them in the house first can they go in?

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          We need a landlord to weigh in on this.

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            he could enter but he wouldn't without permission as his vampyrical torment exists deeper than his protect and sever police man gentle nudges.

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              Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

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                Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                But if you're born in the USA, you didn't agree to any ToS it was forced upon you at birth. Never chose to accept/agree to them, but obligated to follow them or face punishment.

                A contract signed under duress is invalid.

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                  A... Men... Let's start with grammar.

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                    I believe that a vampire is a representation of exploitative forces that you invite into your own life but could avoid if you chose to. A policeman is hard to avoid, especially if they have a warrant. Therefore, a vampire cannot be a policeman in the first place, since the state of being a policeman overwhelms the state of being a vampire.

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                      Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                      If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                      Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

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                        If I’m outside the house and pulling weeds and a vampire walks up and I told them to come on in and motion them in the house first can they go in?

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                        Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? 🧛‍♂️

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                          But if you're born in the USA, you didn't agree to any ToS it was forced upon you at birth. Never chose to accept/agree to them, but obligated to follow them or face punishment.

                          A contract signed under duress is invalid.

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                          While birth is certainly a state of duress for everyone involved, the term would have extreme difficulty in just about any court (glances at the current state of US judicial system uh. mostly.) — though I get where you're coming from and don't entirely disagree.

                          What a world it would be if those cosplaying porklets burst into flames simply by acting outside the Rules As Written. 🤩🥓🔥🤣 ACAB.

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                            Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

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                            I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

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                              I believe that a vampire is a representation of exploitative forces that you invite into your own life but could avoid if you chose to. A policeman is hard to avoid, especially if they have a warrant. Therefore, a vampire cannot be a policeman in the first place, since the state of being a policeman overwhelms the state of being a vampire.

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                              Or vice versa, according to Blade.

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                                If we're going by carpe jugulum rules - yes.

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                                Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

                                IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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                                  We need a landlord to weigh in on this.

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                                  An antideluvian, even.

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                                    Bram Stoker had a different take

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                                    • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                                      Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

                                      IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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                                      Not my Latin 😉

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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                                        I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

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                                        We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

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                                          Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                                          If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                                          The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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