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  • O [email protected]

    Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

    If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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    Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

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    • H [email protected]

      If I’m outside the house and pulling weeds and a vampire walks up and I told them to come on in and motion them in the house first can they go in?

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      Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? πŸ§›β€β™‚οΈ

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      • darkassassin07@lemmy.caD [email protected]

        But if you're born in the USA, you didn't agree to any ToS it was forced upon you at birth. Never chose to accept/agree to them, but obligated to follow them or face punishment.

        A contract signed under duress is invalid.

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        While birth is certainly a state of duress for everyone involved, the term would have extreme difficulty in just about any court (glances at the current state of US judicial system uh. mostly.) β€” though I get where you're coming from and don't entirely disagree.

        What a world it would be if those cosplaying porklets burst into flames simply by acting outside the Rules As Written. 🀩πŸ₯“πŸ”₯🀣 ACAB.

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        • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

          Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

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          I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

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            I believe that a vampire is a representation of exploitative forces that you invite into your own life but could avoid if you chose to. A policeman is hard to avoid, especially if they have a warrant. Therefore, a vampire cannot be a policeman in the first place, since the state of being a policeman overwhelms the state of being a vampire.

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            Or vice versa, according to Blade.

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            • H [email protected]

              If we're going by carpe jugulum rules - yes.

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              Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

              IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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                We need a landlord to weigh in on this.

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                An antideluvian, even.

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                  Bram Stoker had a different take

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                  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                    Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

                    IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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                    Not my Latin πŸ˜‰

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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                    • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                      I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

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                      We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

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                      • O [email protected]

                        Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                        If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                        The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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                          Not my Latin πŸ˜‰

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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                          Fuck! I missed that! Maaan, that's gonna ding my geek cred score. πŸ˜…

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                            Now I'm thinking about a homeless schizophrenic guy living in his mind palace forcing vampires out is "house" through sheer belief since that seems to have some effect on vampires depending on the lore

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                              This is important.

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                              • O [email protected]

                                Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                                If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                                What if im an illegalist who doesnt pay taxes and reinforces my home's exterior?

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                                • V [email protected]

                                  The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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                                  natural right to be safe at home

                                  So nobody who lives under a state is protected?

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                                  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                                    While birth is certainly a state of duress for everyone involved, the term would have extreme difficulty in just about any court (glances at the current state of US judicial system uh. mostly.) β€” though I get where you're coming from and don't entirely disagree.

                                    What a world it would be if those cosplaying porklets burst into flames simply by acting outside the Rules As Written. 🀩πŸ₯“πŸ”₯🀣 ACAB.

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                                    That would be pretty good.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

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                                      What is a pwrson? What if the vampire git a comouter program to intrude every system it could and make every speaker it got access to invite them in?

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                                        A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.

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                                        • openstars@piefed.socialO [email protected]

                                          Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? πŸ§›β€β™‚οΈ

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                                          Vampires can steal your valuables too! You don't know!

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