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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

    Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

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    I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

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      I believe that a vampire is a representation of exploitative forces that you invite into your own life but could avoid if you chose to. A policeman is hard to avoid, especially if they have a warrant. Therefore, a vampire cannot be a policeman in the first place, since the state of being a policeman overwhelms the state of being a vampire.

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      Or vice versa, according to Blade.

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        If we're going by carpe jugulum rules - yes.

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        Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

        IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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          We need a landlord to weigh in on this.

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          An antideluvian, even.

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            Bram Stoker had a different take

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            • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

              Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

              IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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              Not my Latin πŸ˜‰

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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              • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

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                We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

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                  Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                  If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                  The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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                    Not my Latin πŸ˜‰

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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                    Fuck! I missed that! Maaan, that's gonna ding my geek cred score. πŸ˜…

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                      Now I'm thinking about a homeless schizophrenic guy living in his mind palace forcing vampires out is "house" through sheer belief since that seems to have some effect on vampires depending on the lore

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                        This is important.

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                          Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                          If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                          What if im an illegalist who doesnt pay taxes and reinforces my home's exterior?

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                            The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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                            natural right to be safe at home

                            So nobody who lives under a state is protected?

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                            • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                              While birth is certainly a state of duress for everyone involved, the term would have extreme difficulty in just about any court (glances at the current state of US judicial system uh. mostly.) β€” though I get where you're coming from and don't entirely disagree.

                              What a world it would be if those cosplaying porklets burst into flames simply by acting outside the Rules As Written. 🀩πŸ₯“πŸ”₯🀣 ACAB.

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                              That would be pretty good.

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                                No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

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                                What is a pwrson? What if the vampire git a comouter program to intrude every system it could and make every speaker it got access to invite them in?

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                                  A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.

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                                  • openstars@piefed.socialO [email protected]

                                    Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? πŸ§›β€β™‚οΈ

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                                    Vampires can steal your valuables too! You don't know!

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                                    • async_amuro@lemmy.zipA [email protected]

                                      Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

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                                      Can a vampire not break and enter? Would an invitation work if they were out of town and needed the vampire to cat sit for a weekend? Does you being in the house have an effect on the invitation or it deed based? How are renters handled? So many questions!

                                      If you’re like me, you’re frustrated with vampire law. Here at Vampire Law, we help to keep your invitations clear and any misunderstandings cleared up.

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                                        No. The vampire is bound by a supernatural barrier not even the likes of Dracula can defy. Otherwise Dracula would be a judge to issue warrants for his fellow vampire officers.

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                                        • async_amuro@lemmy.zipA [email protected]

                                          Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

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                                          I don't know about that. So, if they ask, "can I come in?" and you say, "Yes." then they still can't come in?

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