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    I believe that a vampire is a representation of exploitative forces that you invite into your own life but could avoid if you chose to. A policeman is hard to avoid, especially if they have a warrant. Therefore, a vampire cannot be a policeman in the first place, since the state of being a policeman overwhelms the state of being a vampire.

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    Or vice versa, according to Blade.

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      If we're going by carpe jugulum rules - yes.

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      Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

      IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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        We need a landlord to weigh in on this.

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        An antideluvian, even.

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          Bram Stoker had a different take

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            Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

            IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

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            Not my Latin ๐Ÿ˜‰

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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            • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

              I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. ๐Ÿ˜œ

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              We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

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              • O [email protected]

                Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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                  Not my Latin ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Jugulum?wprov=sfla1

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                  Fuck! I missed that! Maaan, that's gonna ding my geek cred score. ๐Ÿ˜…

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                    Now I'm thinking about a homeless schizophrenic guy living in his mind palace forcing vampires out is "house" through sheer belief since that seems to have some effect on vampires depending on the lore

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                      This is important.

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                        Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

                        If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

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                        What if im an illegalist who doesnt pay taxes and reinforces my home's exterior?

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                          The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

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                          natural right to be safe at home

                          So nobody who lives under a state is protected?

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                          • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                            While birth is certainly a state of duress for everyone involved, the term would have extreme difficulty in just about any court (glances at the current state of US judicial system uh. mostly.) โ€” though I get where you're coming from and don't entirely disagree.

                            What a world it would be if those cosplaying porklets burst into flames simply by acting outside the Rules As Written. ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅ“๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿคฃ ACAB.

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                            That would be pretty good.

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                              No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

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                              What is a pwrson? What if the vampire git a comouter program to intrude every system it could and make every speaker it got access to invite them in?

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                                A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.

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                                • openstars@piefed.socialO [email protected]

                                  Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? ๐Ÿง›โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                  Vampires can steal your valuables too! You don't know!

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                                    Permission isnโ€™t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

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                                    Can a vampire not break and enter? Would an invitation work if they were out of town and needed the vampire to cat sit for a weekend? Does you being in the house have an effect on the invitation or it deed based? How are renters handled? So many questions!

                                    If youโ€™re like me, youโ€™re frustrated with vampire law. Here at Vampire Law, we help to keep your invitations clear and any misunderstandings cleared up.

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                                      No. The vampire is bound by a supernatural barrier not even the likes of Dracula can defy. Otherwise Dracula would be a judge to issue warrants for his fellow vampire officers.

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                                      • async_amuro@lemmy.zipA [email protected]

                                        Permission isnโ€™t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

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                                        I don't know about that. So, if they ask, "can I come in?" and you say, "Yes." then they still can't come in?

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                                          [citation needed]

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                                          Can confirm, no warrent carrying vampires have gotten into my house without permission from someone inside.

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