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  • T [email protected]

    I have no idea what vegan teacher youre talking about, and in my experience non-vegs feel bad just by hearing that I do actively go out of my way to not hurt innocent sentient beings.

    But yes, of course you'll feel like you're doing the right thing, when you actually stop doing the wrong thing. Nothing wrong with that.

    Also, the only reason the militant vegans make people so angry is, that deep down they know it's true.
    Change my mind.

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    Im not interested in trying to change your mind. And not everyone has the resources, time, energy, or interest in becoming vegan. And no, people aren't angry with militant vegans because they are right. Its because militant vegans are worse than jehovah's witnesses when it comes to pushing their ideology on others and refusing to acknowledge their own privileges in being able to be vegan and make no effort to learn about anyone else. And that's all I'll say on it so if you want to argue do it with someone else.

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    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

      Bowling concert....?

      They making music out of balls rolling down the alley and hitting the pins? 🤔

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      Maybe Bowling For Soup?

      Those guys are still rocking.

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        Im not interested in trying to change your mind. And not everyone has the resources, time, energy, or interest in becoming vegan. And no, people aren't angry with militant vegans because they are right. Its because militant vegans are worse than jehovah's witnesses when it comes to pushing their ideology on others and refusing to acknowledge their own privileges in being able to be vegan and make no effort to learn about anyone else. And that's all I'll say on it so if you want to argue do it with someone else.

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        What I read is that you believe being vegan is being privileged (which to an extend is true, because usually it's the more educated population that also tends to be vegan).

        But the reality is that vegan food is cheaper for the same nutrients. And that despite meat and milk being havily subsidized.

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          Its more because they argue like religious people than someone genuinely trying to convince me. I genuinely do kinda agree that if you want to be as moral as possible you should be vegan. But to be entirely honest I just don't care about animal suffering that much when there are so many issues that affect people and my morality is basically completely human centric.

          And inventing what is effectively used as a slur against omnivores really does diminish the idea that they are simply "doing the right thing". I am not saying that the term carnist is a slur for clarification just that in some vegan communities it is used in the same way that one would be used.

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          I think when you're calling vegans "religious" it's you using that as a slur, despite acknowledging that it's objectively true, which you probably wouldn't say about religions?

          And I agree that there are many more problems, but it's easy to tackle more than one problem at a time, and considering that meat production is responsible for around 15-20% of all carbon emissions, and is a waste of calories (you feed the plants to the animals to get 1/10th at most back), it's an easy way to also try to help out humans by combatting climate change and world hunger.

          I'd also add that the term "carnist" is just a factual description. It's like calling a female presenting person woman.

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            Does the protein disappear if you get it wet?

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            You think men on the internet have experience getting something wet?

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              What I read is that you believe being vegan is being privileged (which to an extend is true, because usually it's the more educated population that also tends to be vegan).

              But the reality is that vegan food is cheaper for the same nutrients. And that despite meat and milk being havily subsidized.

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              Vegan food is not available everywhere. It also provides less flexibility, more effort involved in setting up your diet. If education were such a big factor, i would think vegans would have more self awareness in how they try to provide information and talk to others. Also, just because vegan food is inexpensive where someone is doesnt mean it is everyone. Most important is availability. There are a lot of people who don't have access to it. I'll tell you right now someone getting in my face being all aggressive is going to make me ignore them, doesn't matter their message.

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                Bowling concert....?

                They making music out of balls rolling down the alley and hitting the pins? 🤔

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                Punk Rock Bowling used to be a thing where people from the punk scene would meetup at a bowling alley. It’s grown. Now it’s a concert.

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                  Out of all music genres to pick, why would you wear it to the farthest left one?

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                  Those Nazi bitches love walking around with targets on their back. They’re masochistic. I’ve punched more than a handful of them in the late 90’s / early 2000’s in FL.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    You're supposed to take the skinheads bowling though.

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                    They tend to have a hard time getting through the ball return.

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                      So one thing here. Did you all see the size of the guys pushing him out. If you're a leftist and you're a guy, eat steak, lift weights, then you too can push all the Nazis you want around. If you're not training to lift your purple haired big boobed former Goth girlfriend over your shoulders are you really anti fascist

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                      This is my favorite comment I’ve read in 2025. Thank you for spreading the gospel.

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                      • H [email protected]

                        The song is actually a lot deeper than the chorus makes it seem. He actually trying to reason with the Nazi and say, "hey we're both anti-authoritarian, you're just a fucking idiot for thinking Nazism is the best way to go about it."

                        Punk ain't no religious cult
                        Punk means thinkin' for yourself
                        You ain't hardcore, 'cause you spike your hair
                        When a jock still lives inside your head

                        This is saying you can't just dress like a punk and be punk. Punk is an ethos not a uniform.

                        If you've come to fight, get outta here
                        You ain't no better than the bouncers

                        Some people see punks and mosh pits and think punks are all violent. But that's not the case, so don't come around if you just want to fight.

                        We ain't tryin' to be police
                        When you ape the cops, it ain't anarchy

                        But with that said, they aren't trying to be the police. They want to dismantle control, not recreate it.

                        Ten guys jump one, what a man
                        You fight each other, the police state wins
                        Stab your backs when you trash our halls
                        Trash a bank if you've got real balls

                        This section is basically saying don't take your anger and aggression out on people. It is the system that got you down, not the other people. Take your rage out on institutions of real power, unless you are too much of a pussy.

                        You still think swastikas look cool
                        The real Nazis run your schools
                        They're coaches, businessmen and cops
                        In a real fourth Reich, you'll be the first to go

                        As you noted this is pretty straight forward, those you hold up actually hate you. Scary how accurate that still is today.

                        You'll be the first to go, you'll be the first to go
                        You'll be the first to go, unless you think

                        Use your fucking brain, don't be a Nazi.

                        This is all just my interpretation after listening to this song for 30+ years. I'm sure there are other ways of looking at it.

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                        wow that's a great explanation. Thanks for typing it all out!
                        this song is definitely going in my saved songs now 🙂

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                          Not really related, but where did this whole workout trend come from? What is the issue with traditional sports?

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                          They’re for people that aren’t in their mid 30’s and older. Nothing wrong with them, but after a certain point, there’s a lot of difficulty in keeping up with the scheduling surrounding team sports.

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                            According to Reddit comments he wasn’t a Nazi, but a biker. Biker gangs have a complicated history with the iconography, to the point where even the non-white groups use the symbols.

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                            He’s probably both. Have you met any bikers?

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                              Some if the comments on this video are wild. People are actually trying to defend him by saying the shirt is from a motorcycle club (which it is) - one that just happened to use that exact symbology/logo. Totally an accident in their part, I'm sure.

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                              I didn't watch the video. Was it the iron cross symbol?

                              I used to go to this hole-in-the-wall punk club in Atlanta in the late nineties but I looked like a little hippy kid. My friends had to tell me when it was time to leave since folks might think I was there as a joke in order to fight for fun. I mean, not the same thing at all, but still. Showed me how strongly punk culture has a sense of justice and identity, however spectrumed. Good folks. Strong ethics from my experience.

                              Fuck a nazi right in the teeth.

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                                Bowling concert....?

                                They making music out of balls rolling down the alley and hitting the pins? 🤔

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                                Probably Brooklyn Bowl. It's a combo bowling alley / mid-sized music venue in Brooklyn NY that opened a second location in Vegas a while back, because Brooklyn-branded things are apparently a big attraction for foreign tourists in the US.

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                                  Vegan food is not available everywhere. It also provides less flexibility, more effort involved in setting up your diet. If education were such a big factor, i would think vegans would have more self awareness in how they try to provide information and talk to others. Also, just because vegan food is inexpensive where someone is doesnt mean it is everyone. Most important is availability. There are a lot of people who don't have access to it. I'll tell you right now someone getting in my face being all aggressive is going to make me ignore them, doesn't matter their message.

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                                  Ok, so so you're saying me that somewhere 200g of meat is cheaper than 200g of tofu? Because an average meal is pretty much vegan except for the protein, if you cook with oil instead of butter (which is also cheaper).

                                  But yeah, no matter what I say, you'll claim it's wrong, mainly because you're not really interested in anything but spreading your words. Which is fine, have a nice day.

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                                    I didn't watch the video. Was it the iron cross symbol?

                                    I used to go to this hole-in-the-wall punk club in Atlanta in the late nineties but I looked like a little hippy kid. My friends had to tell me when it was time to leave since folks might think I was there as a joke in order to fight for fun. I mean, not the same thing at all, but still. Showed me how strongly punk culture has a sense of justice and identity, however spectrumed. Good folks. Strong ethics from my experience.

                                    Fuck a nazi right in the teeth.

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                                    It was the SS logo.

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                                      I can't think of a group more likely to kick your ass for this shit haha.

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        I think when you're calling vegans "religious" it's you using that as a slur, despite acknowledging that it's objectively true, which you probably wouldn't say about religions?

                                        And I agree that there are many more problems, but it's easy to tackle more than one problem at a time, and considering that meat production is responsible for around 15-20% of all carbon emissions, and is a waste of calories (you feed the plants to the animals to get 1/10th at most back), it's an easy way to also try to help out humans by combatting climate change and world hunger.

                                        I'd also add that the term "carnist" is just a factual description. It's like calling a female presenting person woman.

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                                        I didn't called vegans religious I said they argued like religious people. Thank you for making that point for me actually.

                                        Its easy to focus on more than one thing but it is impossible to care about everything at once, last time I tried to do that I simply stopped caring about anything for 4 years.

                                        Where's the stat for 15-20% for animal emissions? I'm seeing ≈10% for all agricultural and about ≈60% of that from animals.

                                        I don't really get the waste of calories as a point against eating meat? I don't think that we have to be perfectly efficient with all of the things that we use and on top of that the problems with hunger that we experience are unrelated to the total amount of calories we have available and rather the distribution of them.

                                        Yes vegans only use it descriptively and it is never used in a way to imply in short hand that they are bad people. Never. I watched the vegan sub on reddit for over a year so you might want to try that on someone who hasn't seen the way that some vegans talk about people who eat/use animal products. Some people use veganism as a weapon against other people to feel superior I'm not saying it's you but its a thing that you should be aware actually does exist in your camp like I'm aware that there are people that seem to think eating meat makes them a big strong manly man.

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                                          Does the protein disappear if you get it wet?

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                                          No. But probably diluted. But if you drink all the liquid it's suspended/dissolved in you still get all.
                                          Its just that nutritional information is given for dry.

                                          Cooking it will probably denature it (unfold it so to speak) making the amino acids more available. But all there

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