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Canadians overwhelmingly oppose becoming 51st U.S. state: poll

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    Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

    So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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    There's a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists

    There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world's problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.

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      There's a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists

      There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world's problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.

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      "Why should we solve the world's problems for free? The rest of the world should pay us!"

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        Why would someone waste their money on this poll?

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        Because the world wants to know how hard Polievre fucked himself by hitching his wagon to the trump train.

        Also, with an election called in Canada, it probably doesn't cost much to tack a question about current events onto a poll you were already going to conduct.

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          Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

          So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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          I can believe it, I know one of them. They're the incel, manosphere idiots, the 4chan, never trust the government, flat earther alien conspiracy theorists who think they're smarter than everyone else because the mainstream media always lies and they get their news from - that 'altmedia' you might see and think who the fuck is watching this shit??! YouTube channel etc. It's them.

          That stuff is spreading into the mainstream too. A young person in my family recently told me they don't believe in the moon landing. Why? It doesn't seem like that technology could exist back then. Lol.

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            would they take us as the 11th province?

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                would they take us as the 11th province?

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                Hell. Don't take the whole thing. Just move the boarder to the 45th parallel as opposed to the 49th.

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                  Do 22% of Canadians live in Alberta?

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                    Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

                    So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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                    I'm having a hard time finding the link to the poll itself...

                    But I suspect that the poll had distinct categories for "strongly oppose" and "oppose".

                    So either the article is lumping the two responses together (which would be shitty because they explicitly say "strongly") or it's likely that the number of Canadians who are open to it is <20.

                    From previous polling I've seen, it was around 13% who were open to it. Not even saying they would, but merely open to the idea.

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                      There's a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists

                      There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world's problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.

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                      I have long said that even in a Utopia you would have people unhappy about the way things were.

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                        I can believe it, I know one of them. They're the incel, manosphere idiots, the 4chan, never trust the government, flat earther alien conspiracy theorists who think they're smarter than everyone else because the mainstream media always lies and they get their news from - that 'altmedia' you might see and think who the fuck is watching this shit??! YouTube channel etc. It's them.

                        That stuff is spreading into the mainstream too. A young person in my family recently told me they don't believe in the moon landing. Why? It doesn't seem like that technology could exist back then. Lol.

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                        On the positive side, I knew a couple where she was an evangelical Christian home-schooling their kids and he was a massive conspiracy theorist, who was suspicious of "mainstream medicine" and didn't believe in the moon landings. Over time, with the rise of the far right, QAnon, the antivax movement and Trump, these people have realized they want nothing to do with those people or their insanity. She left the church and stopped preaching at people, they sent their kids to regular schools, they all got their vaccines, and he abandoned his conspiracy theories and now accepts that he was an idiot about the moon landings and laughs at his former self. So it is possible to travel in the other direction.

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                          I can believe it, I know one of them. They're the incel, manosphere idiots, the 4chan, never trust the government, flat earther alien conspiracy theorists who think they're smarter than everyone else because the mainstream media always lies and they get their news from - that 'altmedia' you might see and think who the fuck is watching this shit??! YouTube channel etc. It's them.

                          That stuff is spreading into the mainstream too. A young person in my family recently told me they don't believe in the moon landing. Why? It doesn't seem like that technology could exist back then. Lol.

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                          But the technology to fake it clearly could? Idiots...

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                            On the positive side, I knew a couple where she was an evangelical Christian home-schooling their kids and he was a massive conspiracy theorist, who was suspicious of "mainstream medicine" and didn't believe in the moon landings. Over time, with the rise of the far right, QAnon, the antivax movement and Trump, these people have realized they want nothing to do with those people or their insanity. She left the church and stopped preaching at people, they sent their kids to regular schools, they all got their vaccines, and he abandoned his conspiracy theories and now accepts that he was an idiot about the moon landings and laughs at his former self. So it is possible to travel in the other direction.

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                            Now that is the kind of reality I want to believe in! Those people should share their story and try to 'save' (oh the irony) some more of the crazies.

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                              They're already tired of winning!

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                                Meanwhile Puerto Rico sitting over there like what about us!? We’re supposed to be the 51st state!

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                                  The reasons for opposing becoming the 51st state were loss of Canadian identity, culture and sovereignty at 81 per cent, the difference in health care systems at 68 per cent, concerns over safety with the differences in gun laws and the legal system at 60 per cent, and concern over U.S. politics and governance just below with 58 per cent.

                                  Fellow canucks looking out for our material conditions.

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                                    Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

                                    So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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                                    I'm hoping that the 20% includes mostly people who are just opposed (but not strongly). Still idiots, but not likely traitors.

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                                      There shouldn't have been a poll in the first place

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                                        why are they still writing these articles? do they think we changed our minds since last week? we said no the first time, you can stop asking us every 5 days. pretty sure most of us would rather die in a concentration camp than accept american rule

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                                          Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

                                          It's not news.

                                          If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

                                          This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

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