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  • N [email protected]

    Meet them on their level. Tell them the more salacious details about what he's already done, and that he's basically an evil bond villain playing the long game. I tell them about the radioactive poisoning, nerve agent poisonings, troll farms, election interference. Throw in a bit of nationalism, after all Putin's been goading us for years, he basically rubbed our faces in his misdeeds... Previously this was all the west, not just Europe.

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    So yes, inform them. I do that. More or less - time permitting. And take care that their eyes don't glaze over.

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      Yeah the hippy sexy Delaney novel was probably Dhalgren, which I don’t think I have actually finished despite a few attempts, and for reference I enjoyed Finnegan’s Wake in its entirety so it’s not like I don’t have stamina. I like all the other Delaney works, though. Triton might be a slog because the main character is self centred and childish and it’s from their point of view. It has some banger scenes, like the visit to a novelty restaurant with a nostalgic capitalist theme, and the wacko performance art at one point, and details like every candidate who gets any votes is elected and represent those voters, however few they maybe. Also main character gets a sex change to run from their problems but of course they’re still a jerk lol.

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      Glad to hear that. Would you recommend an easy entry into Delaney's opus?

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        Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

        So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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        Yeah... These headlines are always so optimistic (probably because our media is owned by americans)

        "Overwhelming support for canada. Nothing to see here folks!"

        Uhhhh... 1/5 canadians are literal traitors to the nation. Stand on guard against these morons. Elbows up.

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          Glad to hear that. Would you recommend an easy entry into Delaney's opus?

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          Sure, I guess it depends on your style preferences... I prefer science fiction, so can't remember much about the sword and sorcery novels, but they're readable, and like anything Delaney does, underpinned with exploration of the power of words, ideas, power, desire.

          Stay away from Dhalgren.

          Nova is probably the most space opera novel with a standard structure. Good starting place.

          Babel-17 is intense and weird and fairly short, about language as a weapon. Sometimes you find a copy doubled up with Empire Star which has a plot and structure that loops back on itself.

          Probably my favourite is Stars in my Pocket Like Grains of Sand which is probably the most alien yet approachable family portrayal in SF. Sadly it's the first half of a duology that didn't get finished, probably because it stands alone really well.

          The short story collections vary but are mostly wins for any reader.

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            Hell, I wish my own state wasn't a US state.

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            Which state is that?

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              Which state is that?

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              All of them I believe.

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                Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state

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                I miss boring liberal America where our absurd bullshit was just ours and not leaking out into the world.

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                  Yeah... These headlines are always so optimistic (probably because our media is owned by americans)

                  "Overwhelming support for canada. Nothing to see here folks!"

                  Uhhhh... 1/5 canadians are literal traitors to the nation. Stand on guard against these morons. Elbows up.

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                  Polls generally are complete garbage.

                  If I become Supreme Leader of the US (it seems a lot more probable than it used to) I will make public polls illegal. If you want to poll people you need to do it in the privacy of your own home with the curtains drawn.

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                    Sovereign country not keen on being annexed by psycho neighbour, more news at 6.

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                      These articles and polls, framing trump's deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.

                      They just normalize this fucking insane shit

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                        Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

                        It's not news.

                        If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

                        This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

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                        We should poll how many americans are willing for their state to be the 11th canadian province.

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                          Hell. Don't take the whole thing. Just move the boarder to the 45th parallel as opposed to the 49th.

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                          45 and flight?

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                            These articles and polls, framing trump's deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.

                            They just normalize this fucking insane shit

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                            Yeah, it's frustrating to see anyone even bother spending time on this nonsense. It does just normalize the absolute insanity of what is going on - it's more damaging to publish this poll than to ignore it altogether imo.

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                              Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?

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                                These articles and polls, framing trump's deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.

                                They just normalize this fucking insane shit

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                                Reporting on this just helps him.

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                                  Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?

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                                  the same folks who didn't get why the piss jugs episode was so funny.

                                  1000001305

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                                    Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?

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                                    They’re all from Alberta

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                                      45 and flight?

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                                      I mean. Imo that's only fair. Sure they are getting one of the world's larger economics (WA state + Portland), they are also getting Montana, Idaho, and a good chunk of the Dakota's...

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                                        Sure, I guess it depends on your style preferences... I prefer science fiction, so can't remember much about the sword and sorcery novels, but they're readable, and like anything Delaney does, underpinned with exploration of the power of words, ideas, power, desire.

                                        Stay away from Dhalgren.

                                        Nova is probably the most space opera novel with a standard structure. Good starting place.

                                        Babel-17 is intense and weird and fairly short, about language as a weapon. Sometimes you find a copy doubled up with Empire Star which has a plot and structure that loops back on itself.

                                        Probably my favourite is Stars in my Pocket Like Grains of Sand which is probably the most alien yet approachable family portrayal in SF. Sadly it's the first half of a duology that didn't get finished, probably because it stands alone really well.

                                        The short story collections vary but are mostly wins for any reader.

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                                        I forgot to mention that yes, it was definitely Dhalgren.

                                        Anyhow, yes to SciFi. Space Opera sounds most suitable to me, so that's where I'll start.

                                        Thanks!

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