AfD is the most popular party in Germany for the first time, with a record 26%
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We really should stop using the term "conservative" for what the self proclaimed "conservative" parties are doing. Because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
The correct term is reactionary.
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The correct term is reactionary.
Just call it what it is. It's fascist. It's the fascist party. All of these - afd, maga, same unimaginative shit.
Inventing new terms is what these fuckers want. Remind them they're not new and only, been wrong before.
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You’re the one being intolerant. You’re the ones asking for fascism. You're the nazis
So according to you, the people who want everyone with the wrong kind of mustache to be deported, who want citizenships revoked, who want to "remove the outmoded political party system", who want to defund public media because it's "too woke", who want to gut universities, and who want to overthrow the constitutional order are not the fascists?
Fwiw, German law explicitly allows the government to ask the constitutional court to check whether a party behaves consistently with constitutional order, and if not, outlawing them based on that. German parliamentarians unfortunately seem to have missed the boat on that.
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This is such a U.S. way of reporting things.
74% of people don't want to be part of AfD.
I disagree. The nazis leading the polls is very disturbing.
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You know what the worst thing is? He wasn't the only one by far. Later at a different company another Teamleader told me I have to go out to eat with everybody. When I said the restaurant isn't save for me (lots of nuts on the menu), he just said I HAVE to come and that's what the Epipen is there for. I complained to HR and the HR lady asked why I don't just do a therapy against allergies. Told me about some esoteric bullshit that's supposed to cure all allergies and advised me to do that so I can better fit in with the company culture.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This has to be the most toxic employer in Germany. I had some shut jobs, especially when I was younger, but this is insane.
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This is such a U.S. way of reporting things.
74% of people don't want to be part of AfD.
One out every four people you meet being a literal nazi is tough tho
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Why hasn't the German government shut them down? I thought they had anti-fascist laws on their books.
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It's similar in the UK currently. The UK's equivalent of AfD is Reform UK who are apparently the leading party in the polls (source
Reform UK in front on 25%, Labour on 23% and the Conservatives on 20%, with the Lib Dems on 16% and Greens on 10%
The next UK election must be held in about four years. The only elections this year will be by-elections (notorious for elevating micro-parties due to protest votes) and local government elections (where Reform has done poorly, since they don't really have more than a handful of candidates who aren't local cranks and Nazis). Where I live, the local-government protest votes has swung seats from Labour to the Greens, and to a lesser extent, the LibDems; the right hasn't had much success.
It should also be noted that the UK press is very rightwing and is constantly promoting Fromage.
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Ha! Suck it Germany! America isn't the only shitty fascist country now.
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The next UK election must be held in about four years. The only elections this year will be by-elections (notorious for elevating micro-parties due to protest votes) and local government elections (where Reform has done poorly, since they don't really have more than a handful of candidates who aren't local cranks and Nazis). Where I live, the local-government protest votes has swung seats from Labour to the Greens, and to a lesser extent, the LibDems; the right hasn't had much success.
It should also be noted that the UK press is very rightwing and is constantly promoting Fromage.
True, it's a long time until the next UK general election. Maybe Reform's vote will suffer before then. Alternatively the local elections and by-elections could be a boost for them, I dunno.
Anyway, maybe we should have proportional representation in the UK. Even if Reform had 25% of the vote and therefore 25% of the seats in parliament, that would mean that 75% of parliamentarians wouldn't be Reform members.
Our current system allows a party with minority support (potentially Reform in the future) to win a majority of parliamentary seats. In 2019, the Conservatives won 44% of the vote, which gave them 56% of seats. Last year, Labour won 34% of the vote, which gave them 63% of seats.
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donno about Germany, but here in UK the current government is actually putting through unexpected changes, but its probably invisible to general public. news outlets are generally pro conservatives here
Britain has First Past The Post, a hereditary head of state who has some power (seldom used) to block legislation and no written Constitution.
It isn't quite the opposite of Germany but not far from it.
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Ha! Suck it Germany! America isn't the only shitty fascist country now.
But they aren't even the ruling party, what are you on about
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Why hasn't the German government shut them down? I thought they had anti-fascist laws on their books.
There are multiple factors at play.
- The government is incompetent and the Nazis are playing them like a fiddle by setting the public agenda aided by incompetent and complicit media.
- The government consists of greedy, power hungry bastards who think they can use the Nazis to their advantage. (Some lie to themselves that they can steal them votes by parroting their rhetoric, some use the spectre of cooperating with the Nazis to pressure other parties into cooperation with themselves)
- The government consists of opportunistic cowards who are afraid to anger the Nazi voters.
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Well well.. here we go again. I’m ready to give up my life.
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Just call it what it is. It's fascist. It's the fascist party. All of these - afd, maga, same unimaginative shit.
Inventing new terms is what these fuckers want. Remind them they're not new and only, been wrong before.
It's not a new term, it has been around for a few centuries now. People who want to revert change, go back to the perceived good old times. Fascist is overused these days, and I'd argue reactionary hits a nice descriptive middle ground between conservative (which they are not, any more) and fascist (which many of them aren't yet). Hit them where they are, not where they move to
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I have no trust in the current coalition to make that happen...
I see your point of view, it's upsetting. The least we can do as people is to keep shaming and calling the losers out. Here's my recommendation, if you have an hour to spare: Fascists will waste your time. on YouTube
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No surprise considering CDU/CSU fucking up shit for the broad population from day one. They even suggested a 1000€ deductible for the health insurance.
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*In an opinion poll
I mean lets not confuse an opinion poll with the truth. These things regularly get things a couple points off. In fact that’s the norm.
a couple points off
Yes so they're first or a close second, that's hardly better.
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The other parties are not taking up AfDs made up causes because they are made up.
For example:
A sack of potatoes falls.
AfD: Stupid foreigners causing the sacks to fall! We must gas them!
Other parties: This is so stupid it doesn't warrant a response.
General public: but the foreigners!!111!1!!!11 and thr potatoes!!1! I am outraged!
I don't think that you make a good point if you yourself make up your point. Please quote the AfD to avoid all doubt.
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This is such a U.S. way of reporting things.
74% of people don't want to be part of AfD.
It’s not. 74% are also not working on convincing disgruntled voters that AfD is just a shitsandwich and not an alternative that would improve anything. 26% for a single party that didn’t exist for long is huge and just shows how sick Germans are of the usual cdu/csu/spd/green/fdp bullshit.
The infuriating thing is that AfD voters would probably be better off with dieLinke.
